I cry for the British football fans

[Skybird]

Let's line up for their support (we can beat their team afterwards )

http://www.salfordadvertiser.co.uk/n...patriotic.html

[Kapitan_Phillips]

*Shakes fist in a generally threatening manner*

[Khayman]

And now being Scottish and wanting any team but England to win is racism;
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/tm...name_page.html

Not for me though. I agree with Terry Pratchett who said in "Monstrous Regiment"; "You take a bunch of people who don't seem any different from you and me, but when you add them all together you get this sort of huge raving maniac with national borders and an anthem"

[STEED]

This is old news which pops up from time to time over the flag of St George. And all this crap comes from the do gooders, I am sick to the back teeth with these middle class white honky's who think they know what's best for us.

Lock them all up I say, these scumbags have caused a lot of problems, if I want to put up the St George or Union Jack I will, nuts to these toss pots it's my country and my flag. You don't here this sort of crap from America and good on them for putting up their country's flag well done.

[Torplexed]

Yeah...you gotta love these people who trounce over other people's sentiments and rights of expression to make themselves feel guilt-free and politically correct.

Kinda reminds me of the white city council types here in Seattle who are campaigning to remove Indian names and mascots from our area schools even when the local Native Amrican tribes make it know that they don't mind. Who are they campaigning for...them or their own feelings of moral elitism?

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Torplexed

Who are they campaigning for...them or their own feelings of moral elitism?

The jury draws a 10.0 for the truth of that comment, and a whip for political impropriety.

[Khayman]

Originally Posted by STEED

This is old news which pops up from time to time over the flag of St George. And all this crap comes from the do gooders, I am sick to the back teeth with these middle class white honky's who think they know what's best for us.

Lock them all up I say, these scumbags have caused a lot of problems, if I want to put up the St George or Union Jack I will, nuts to these toss pots it's my country and my flag. You don't here this sort of crap from America and good on them for putting up their country's flag well done.

Put one up if you want, and shout "Hurrah!" for Queen and country. Doesn't bother me. Your anger does though, I mean it's only a flag isn't it? Patriotism in small doses is okay, but it verges on lunacy if taken too far. It's the kinda thing that starts wars

[STEED]

Originally Posted by Khayman

Put one up if you want, and shout "Hurrah!" for Queen and country. Doesn't bother me. Your anger does though, I mean it's only a flag isn't it? Patriotism in small doses is okay, but it verges on lunacy if taken too far. It's the kinda thing that starts wars

Hey Khayman if you want to put up the Scottish flag good for you, Scotland has got it's problems with it's First Scottish Minister, and how do I know all this. I got Scottish Friends who are sick of this mad man their words not mine. Political madness has gone to far and is destroying England and Scotland.

[TLAM Strike]

Originally Posted by STEED

You don't here this sort of crap from America and good on them for putting up their country's flag well done.

My buddy lived in Californa for a long time (he grew up there) and tons of buildings that had flag poles (Schools, City Hall etc) would have the Flag of Californa under the US Flag. Where he now works (in NY) they have a Canadian flag right below the US Flag because they have a plant in Canada too. One truck driver (not employed by them) complained about to their company and to his union so they called the trucking company and that guy isn't going to be making runs to their plant ever again.

Here in NY you see NY State flags everywhere (I drove by a gas station that had a few for three years). Some goverment sponsored buildings fly the old 15 star/15 stripe flag!

[Skybird]

Am I wrong or is it widening?http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7...258613,00.html

[STEED]

Originally Posted by STEED

I am sick to the back teeth with these middle class white honky's who think they know what's best for us.

The fact is 90% of this political correctness comes from the white middle class of the UK. And 10% others, a prime example some two years ago this PC lobby stated hot cross buns were very offencive to Muslims, the British Muslim council turned round and said "What rubbish, we find this PC lobby an offence as they are the ones causing the friction."

I am sick of the childish mentality of these people, who are a bunch of sinister creeps who hide in the shadows and behind their curtains and yoghurt pots. We have got to stand up to these people, tell them to shut up go away and grow up.

[August]

Originally Posted by STEED

The fact is 90% of this political correctness comes from the white middle class of the UK. And 10% others, a prime example some two years ago this PC lobby stated hot cross buns were very offencive to Muslims, the British Muslim council turned round and said "What rubbish, we find this PC lobby an offence as they are the ones causing the friction."

I am sick of the childish mentality of these people, who are a bunch of sinister creeps who hide in the shadows and behind their curtains and yoghurt pots. We have got to stand up to these people, tell them to shut up go away and grow up.

Yeah we get a lot of this in the States too. For example, people protesting sports teams using American Indian related terms like the Chiefs or the Braves as offensive when the Indians themselves have said they don't have a problem with it.

[TteFAboB]

Who the hell falls for this cheap, ridiculous blackmail?!

Muslim group demands flags to be taken down.

Fool bastard obeys.

Muslim wins.

Now, if you were to resist, and the Muslim group decided to take further action, YOU win, because a terror attack, molotovs or even stoning windows would degenerate the image of ALL Muslims/groups! And even possibly trigger a change in legislation.



Ok class, back to Sun Tzu 101: How to take one step back and two steps forward.

[CB..]

that's why i reckon we all lost the moral battle when we agreed to remove the infamous "cartoon" from publications- NOT because Muslims objected--but because Muslims threw petrol bombs at embassys--

we allowed the civilised peacefull satirical "protest" of a published cartoon
to be over-ruled by violent mob terror and social hooliganism--

we did not stand behind the civilised expression of disent--one which the over whelming majority of neutral citizens felt expressed a perfectly valid point....

as long as we deny the rights of peacefull citizens in favour of violent ones-were allways going to come out worse--

the pen is only mightier than the sword -if we make it mightier than the sword--

came acros this poem the other day which said it well--


man depicts religious figure with bomb on head--
man implies religious figure condones violence--
religious men protest this ---
man believes religious figure condones violence--
man flys airliner thru building-
religious men do not protest this--

[Skybird]

I loved that cartoon with the bomb-headed Muhammad, I immediately was reminded of the biography of the historical true Muhammad, and Islam's unprecedented aggressive history. Judging the man by his deeds and sermons, that picture was 100% right on target and no carricature at all.