eh...how to get the XXI in the beginning of the war

[melinjkpg]

I have played this game loooong time now. did just install the gray wolf mod...great mod by the way. but...I dont have the pleasure of playing with XXI in a real warpatroll and loong one. Sure. i did try it and started my carrier -44 and cheat alittle to hade afford to buy the boat, but. how can i cheat so i get the XXI in the begining of the war. Why i want to do this, becourse i have played the game so loong time now..and have tried all the other boats my earn them, but XXI if i get it, i can only play with that a couple of month and the war is over. I want to play more with that. HOW? love to have patrolls to USA on the drumbeatle operation and so on.

[melinjkpg]

Bump....

[VonHelsching]

Hmmmm...... :hmm:
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Oh, yes! Check: http://www.subsim.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=49043

To get Type XXI @ 1939 as first assigned boat.

First we need to modify the Basic.cfg
1.Copy the info below:.

;[SUBMARINE_AMMO11];XXI
[SUBMARINE_AMMO10]
Type=3
Version=0
ForeTubes=6
AftTubes=0
ForeResIntern=17
ForeResExtern=0
ForeResExtra=0
AftResIntern=0
AftResExtern=0
ShellSlots=10
NbYears=7
Renown=11

Year0=1939
ForeTube00=9
ForeTube01=9
ForeTube02=9
ForeTube03=9
ForeTube04=9
ForeTube05=9
ForeResIntern00=10
ForeResIntern01=10
ForeResIntern02=10
ForeResIntern03=10
ForeResIntern04=10
ForeResIntern05=10
ForeResIntern06=3
ForeResIntern07=3
ForeResIntern08=3
ForeResIntern09=3
ForeResIntern010=3
ForeResIntern011=3
ForeResIntern012=9
ForeResIntern013=9
ForeResIntern014=9
ForeResIntern015=9
ForeResIntern016=9
Z01_00=12 ; XXI/1
A01_00=9
A02_00=9
SuperCharger_00=1260
Snorkel_00=1262
Batteries_00=1269
AftBatteries_00=1269
Hydrophone_00=1272
Sonar_00=1274
Radar_00=1278
RadarWarningReceiver_00=1283
Decoy_Launcher_00=1288
SonarCoatings_00=1304
RadarCoatings_00=1305
Renown0=0


Year1=1940
ForeTube10=9
ForeTube11=9
ForeTube12=9
ForeTube13=9
ForeTube14=9
ForeTube15=9
ForeResIntern10=10
ForeResIntern11=10
ForeResIntern12=10
ForeResIntern13=10
ForeResIntern14=10
ForeResIntern15=10
ForeResIntern16=3
ForeResIntern17=3
ForeResIntern18=3
ForeResIntern19=3
ForeResIntern110=3
ForeResIntern111=3
ForeResIntern112=9
ForeResIntern113=9
ForeResIntern114=9
ForeResIntern115=9
ForeResIntern116=9
Z01_10=12 ; XXI/1
A01_10=9

A02_10=9
SuperCharger_10=1260
Snorkel_10=1262
Batteries_10=1269
AftBatteries_10=1269
Hydrophone_10=1272
Sonar_10=1274
Radar_10=1278
RadarWarningReceiver_10=1283
Decoy_Launcher_10=1288
SonarCoatings_10=1304
RadarCoatings_10=1305
Renown1=0


Year2=1941
ForeTube20=9
ForeTube21=9
ForeTube22=9
ForeTube23=9
ForeTube24=9
ForeTube25=9
ForeResIntern20=10
ForeResIntern21=10
ForeResIntern22=10
ForeResIntern23=10
ForeResIntern24=10
ForeResIntern25=10
ForeResIntern26=3
ForeResIntern27=3
ForeResIntern28=3
ForeResIntern29=3
ForeResIntern210=3
ForeResIntern211=3
ForeResIntern212=9
ForeResIntern213=9
ForeResIntern214=9
ForeResIntern215=9
ForeResIntern216=9
Z01_20=12 ; XXI/1
A01_20=9
A02_20=9
SuperCharger_20=1260
Snorkel_20=1262
Batteries_20=1269
AftBatteries_20=1269
Hydrophone_20=1272
Sonar_20=1274
Radar_20=1278
RadarWarningReceiver_20=1283
Decoy_Launcher_20=1288
SonarCoatings_20=1304
RadarCoatings_20=1305
Renown2=0

Year3=1942
ForeTube30=9
ForeTube31=9
ForeTube32=9
ForeTube33=9
ForeTube34=9
ForeTube35=9
ForeResIntern30=10
ForeResIntern31=10
ForeResIntern32=10
ForeResIntern33=10
ForeResIntern34=10
ForeResIntern35=10
ForeResIntern36=3
ForeResIntern37=3
ForeResIntern38=3
ForeResIntern39=3
ForeResIntern310=3
ForeResIntern311=3
ForeResIntern312=9
ForeResIntern313=9
ForeResIntern314=9
ForeResIntern315=9
ForeResIntern316=9
Z01_30=12 ; XXI/1
A01_30=9
A02_30=9
SuperCharger_30=1260
Snorkel_30=1262
Batteries_30=1269
AftBatteries_30=1269
Hydrophone_30=1272
Sonar_30=1274
Radar_30=1278
RadarWarningReceiver_30=1283
Decoy_Launcher_30=1288
SonarCoatings_30=1304
RadarCoatings_30=1305
Renown3=0

Year4=1943
ForeTube40=9
ForeTube41=9
ForeTube42=9
ForeTube43=9
ForeTube44=9
ForeTube45=9
ForeResIntern40=10
ForeResIntern41=10
ForeResIntern42=10
ForeResIntern43=10
ForeResIntern44=10
ForeResIntern45=10
ForeResIntern46=3
ForeResIntern47=3
ForeResIntern48=3
ForeResIntern49=3
ForeResIntern410=3
ForeResIntern411=3
ForeResIntern412=9
ForeResIntern413=9
ForeResIntern414=9
ForeResIntern415=9
ForeResIntern416=9
Z01_40=12 ; XXI/1
A01_40=9
A02_40=9
SuperCharger_40=1260
Snorkel_40=1262
Batteries_40=1269
AftBatteries_40=1269
Hydrophone_40=1272
Sonar_40=1274
Radar_40=1278
RadarWarningReceiver_40=1283
Decoy_Launcher_40=1288
SonarCoatings_40=1304
RadarCoatings_40=1305
Renown4=0

Year5=1944
ForeTube50=9
ForeTube51=9
ForeTube52=9
ForeTube53=9
ForeTube54=9
ForeTube55=9
ForeResIntern50=10
ForeResIntern51=10
ForeResIntern52=10
ForeResIntern53=10
ForeResIntern54=10
ForeResIntern55=10
ForeResIntern56=3
ForeResIntern57=3
ForeResIntern58=3
ForeResIntern59=3
ForeResIntern510=3
ForeResIntern511=3
ForeResIntern512=9
ForeResIntern513=9
ForeResIntern514=9
ForeResIntern515=9
ForeResIntern516=9
Z01_50=12 ; XXI/1
A01_50=9
A02_50=9
SuperCharger_50=1260
Snorkel_50=1262
Batteries_50=1269
AftBatteries_50=1269
Hydrophone_50=1272
Sonar_50=1274
Radar_50=1278
RadarWarningReceiver_50=1283
Decoy_Launcher_50=1288
SonarCoatings_50=1304
RadarCoatings_50=1305
Renown5=0

Year6=1945
ForeTube60=9
ForeTube61=9
ForeTube62=9
ForeTube63=9
ForeTube64=9
ForeTube65=9
ForeResIntern60=10
ForeResIntern61=10
ForeResIntern62=10
ForeResIntern63=10
ForeResIntern64=10
ForeResIntern65=10
ForeResIntern66=3
ForeResIntern67=3
ForeResIntern68=3
ForeResIntern69=3
ForeResIntern610=3
ForeResIntern611=3
ForeResIntern612=9
ForeResIntern613=9
ForeResIntern614=9
ForeResIntern615=9
ForeResIntern616=9
Z01_60=12 ; XXI/1
A01_60=9
A02_60=9
SuperCharger_60=1260
Snorkel_60=1262
Batteries_60=1269
AftBatteries_60=1269
Hydrophone_60=1272
Sonar_60=1274
Radar_60=1278
RadarWarningReceiver_60=1283
Decoy_Launcher_60=1288
SonarCoatings_60=1304
RadarCoatings_60=1305
Renown6=0

2. Now goto your Basic.cfg file / open and search for [SUBMARINE_AMMO11];XXI to find the parameters related to the type XXI sub. Then paste all the info above over the original [SUBMARINE_AMMO11];XXI list.

3. Edit the [CONING_TYPE12] ;XXI/1 section. Change Year=1943 to Year=1939.

4.Edit the [AMMO_TYPE9];2cm FK C/38 Flakzwiling XXI section. Change Year=1943 to Year=1939.

SAVE

Now we need to edit the Flotillia.cfg.
1.Open the file.
2.Find the flotilia section you need to edit. For example we want add type XXI to the 1st flotillia which has the Flotilla0=902 id.

3.In the Flotilla0=902 section find the NbUboats0=2 string and change it to NbUboats0=3 string. This is the number of available submarines.

4. Now we need to specify a new third submarine. Find the following strings:
Uboat0_0=0
Uboat0_1=1

5. Add :Uboat0_2=3.
Uboat0_0=0
Uboat0_1=1
Uboat0_2=3

6. Repeat this steps for other flotillias if you need. For example for the 2nd Flotillia:

NbUboats1=3
Uboat1_0=1
Uboat1_1=2
Uboat1_2=3

Save.

Now to fix the sub files.

1. Goto the Type XXI Sub folder found in */Silent Hunter III/Data/Submarine/NS_Uboat21.

Copy the info below:

;equiment cfg file, high level of detail

[Equipment 1]
NodeName=A01
LinkName=20mm21_UFlak
StartDate=19380101
EndDate=19451231

[Equipment 2]
NodeName=A02
LinkName=20mm21_UFlak
StartDate=19380101
EndDate=19451231

2. Open the NSS_Uboat21.eqp fie, select all, paste. Save

3. Copy all the info below.

; sensor configuration file

;lookout on conning tower
[Sensor 1]
NodeName=O01
LinkName=Visual
StartDate=19380101
EndDate=19451231

;atack periscope
[Sensor 2]
NodeName=O02
LinkName=Periscope
StartDate=19380101
EndDate=19451231

;Observation periscope
[Sensor 3]
NodeName=O03
LinkName=Periscope
StartDate=19380101
EndDate=19451231

;Hydrophone
[Sensor 4]
NodeName=H01
LinkName=Hydrophone
StartDate=19380101
EndDate=19451231

;Hydrophone2
[Sensor 5]
NodeName=H02
LinkName=NULL
StartDate=19380101
EndDate=19451231

;Sonar
[Sensor 6]
NodeName=N01
LinkName=NULL
StartDate=19380101
EndDate=19451231

;Radar
[Sensor 7]
NodeName=R01
LinkName=NULL
StartDate=19380101
EndDate=19451231

;RadioDF
[Sensor 8]
NodeName=D01
LinkName=NULL
StartDate=19380101
EndDate=19451231

;Radar Warning
[Sensor 9]
NodeName=C01
LinkName=NULL
StartDate=19380101
EndDate=19451231

[Sensor 10]
NodeName=R02
LinkName=NULL
StartDate=19380101
EndDate=19451231

[Sensor 11]
NodeName=D02
LinkName=NULL
StartDate=19380101
EndDate=19451231

4. Opn the NSS_Uboat21.sns file. Select all, paste. Save.

5. Start game. select Type XXI Boat. Go sink lots of ships and have Fun.

[Ducimus]

Don't forget to change the dates on the XXI's roster.cfg file too.

Don't need to. But you can do if 1 so desire's.

[Ducimus]

Originally Posted by Cdre Gibs

Don't need to. But you can do if 1 so desire's.

Well you do and you don't.

You don't need to if you dont mind having no patrol grid.
You need to, if you do mind not having a patrol grid.


I experimented with this alot awhile ago, and i always ended up with the same behavior.

Start a new patrol with a newly aquired XXI, and you start with a patrol grid. After that, i'd never see a patrol grid assignment again. In hindsight you could aways use SH3 commander and give yourself any grid you want, but to me it really takes away from the game when you pick and choose your "assignments". Id rather have the feeling of behind handed orders to carry out. Personal flavor thing i guess.

Correct.

Personaly I think the Patrol grids are over rated. Boring as hell. I prefer freelancing it. More so if your taking a Type XXI out in 1939. A patrol grid sorta becomes redundant.

[Ducimus]

Originally Posted by Cdre Gibs

Correct.

More so if your taking a Type XXI out in 1939. A patrol grid sorta becomes redundant.

Where the XXI is concerned, ill agree to that. If your using that boat in 1939, a patrol grid is a moot point no matter how you look at it.

[flyingdane]

[flyingdane]

[VonHelsching]

Originally Posted by Cdre Gibs

Correct.

Personaly I think the Patrol grids are over rated. Boring as hell. I prefer freelancing it. More so if your taking a Type XXI out in 1939. A patrol grid sorta becomes redundant.

:rotfl: That was a good one.

Cdre, speaking of 1939...A question out of the blue. Is there any way to attach a double DG of a DD to any human playable u-boat? I was thinking a mod about the U-cruiser. Is this possible?

If you're not familiar with u-cruisers:

Type XI U-cruisers
Huge U-boats, designed in 1937-1938, with 4 127mm deck guns ( ) in two gun-towers (one fore and aft of the conning tower). 6 torpedo tubes (4 in the bow and two at the stern, all below the CWL). One Ar 231 small aircraft in a watertight 2.6m in diameter container shaft. These boats were to have a crew of about 110 men almost double that of any constructed German U-boat. 4 contracts (U-112 thru U-115) were awarded to the AG Weser yard in Bremen on Jan 17, 1939 but wisely cancelled at the outbreak of war in September that year

There is a pic in http://www.subsim.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=47482

BTW, how can you attach a pic in the message body?

You mean like this?

[img]what ever your link is to the pic put here[/img]

I take it you mean 1 of these ?


Ok heres the deal. No NON Sub Gun can be used on a PCO (Player Controled Object - meaning Human player sub)

NON Sub Gun - Any weapon mount that is NOT part of Sub_Gun.dat. So there for if it comes off an AI Boast, you cant use it. Ohh it can be mounted an hell it will even track a target, BUT it will be reported as destroyed and your crew wont man it.

However something close is sorta possible. BRB, need to close Campaign and take a SS for you.

Ok here we go. U-Cruiser Light.

[VonHelsching]

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That was good.

:P

Are both DGs controllable by the player, or only the front?
Was that an IXD/2?
What was that plane?
Can we simulate shells "larger" than 10.5 inches?
Can I have it?