Italian built

GlowwormGuy · 02-15-06, 09:59 PM

Hi to the Betasom team,

Any chance that perhaps you guys will be doing old style ships like the cruiser San Giorgio at Tobruk or ships that are Italian built like the Giorgios Averoff or the Thai cruiser Naresuan (w/c became the Italian cruiser Etna)?

Just wondering,
Mountbatten

willi · 02-16-06, 03:11 AM

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Originally Posted by GlowwormGuy

Hi to the Betasom team,

Any chance that perhaps you guys will be doing old style ships like the cruiser San Giorgio at Tobruk or ships that are Italian built like the Giorgios Averoff or the Thai cruiser Naresuan (w/c became the Italian cruiser Etna)?

Just wondering,
Mountbatten

I have reported your suggestion to ours excellent but absent author 3D.
Hi
Willy

GlowwormGuy · 02-16-06, 09:54 PM

Really looking forward to anything Betasom builds. You guys are great!

Right now I'm making do with the Kent type cruisers for the Averoff - they're actually a pretty close match - and if it were possible to just add four secondary twin turrets and redo the superstructure of the Kent...

Here's hoping,
Mountbatten

Canarb · 02-17-06, 06:35 PM

san Giorgio is in my heart

GlowwormGuy · 02-18-06, 06:45 AM

Well, hope to see it sailing sometime. The Greek armoured cruiser Averoff was the sister ship of the Italian cruisers Pisa and Amalfi. Right now I'm just using the Norfolk to stand in for it but it doesn't have those four 7.5 twin turrets.

Hoping for some of those sweet old school ships someday!

Mountbatten

GlowwormGuy · 02-22-06, 03:36 AM

Are these in the works? Which present ships would be a good looking substitute for these would you think?

Many thanks,
Mountbatten

GlowwormGuy · 03-04-06, 01:14 AM

Here are some great views of these fine Italian built warships:

http://warships.web4u.cz/lode.php?la...TRA&trida=Trad

I was thinking if you guys were already doing Ariete perhaps a version of the Ariete with no turrets just guns would be similar to Trad.

Also the design of the Etna/Naresuan class is quite similar to the Capitan Romani.

http://warships.web4u.cz/lode.php?la...CLA&trida=Etna

Kudos on the Gabbiano! That's a sweet boat!

Mountbatten

03-06-06, 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by GlowwormGuy

Kudos on the Gabbiano! That's a sweet boat!

Just installed it into my DC folder and really looks amazing.

I have one question though. There are many UDF's which seem to be all exactly the same except for one field:

Flag= 1,2,3 and so on up to 9.

What does this mean?.

Bruno Lotse · 03-06-06, 08:54 PM

By changing this Flag parameter you can change nationality of the ship. The model would fly the colors of the country which correspond to values 1.2.3 etc. Try it. Historically, after 09.43 some Gabbiano corvettes were taken over by Kriegsmarine and became German T class, after the war some became French, others - Soviet ships (WW2 reparations). It's one of the great features of SH2/DC - customization.

Hey, ask Mountbatten, should he have time he can do magnificent repaints the ships. He could make you German T out of Italian Gabbiano

GlowwormGuy · 03-06-06, 10:32 PM

Thanks for the plug Bruno and yes I can (would love to!) do a repaint of the Gabbiano if you'd give me the colors or samples. I'm actually planning to use the old Gabbiano (DC version) as the German Vorpostenboote - I know should have a longer slimmer funnel - and I got a few new things kicking around in the cruiser category, repaints all though.

Mountbatten

03-07-06, 03:10 AM

I had tried only in the viewer and there I could see no changes.

After setting up a quick mission in the game itself, now I've realised that penant numbers change with every different UDF, but not the flag itself: they're all waving Italian flag.

Bruno Lotse · 03-07-06, 10:54 AM

@Mountbatten

Sure.
Here is wartime Gabbiano in color

Another Gabbiano

Yet another

These are color schema for NTP Orsa. Yet the same colors were applied to Gabbiano as well.

Here are color schema in color using NCL Scipione Africano (Class Capitani Romani)

and now NCL Duca D'Aosta

This is German WWI veteran T class in Mediterrenian camo. T-3 actually

Here's German starndard German T in the North Sea camo 'Kondor' and 'Falke'. Vorpostenboote should be in the same colors. Lots of them were just converted peacetime fishers.

Cheers,
Bruno

O Mamma mia! What is that in my scope - Italian built?

Scorpio U-1000 · 03-07-06, 05:23 PM

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These are color schema for NTP Orsa

A previews of Orsa... in progress:

Quote:

By changing this Flag parameter you can change nationality of the ship

With the Orsa for example, changing the flag you can change the name of ship:

Orione, Orsa, Procione, Pegaso

PS: we are not in Betasom anymore

www.forum.maricosom.net

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Bruno Lotse · 03-07-06, 05:46 PM

Oh Mamma Mia! Looking good, veeeeery good!

GlowwormGuy · 03-08-06, 09:31 PM

I'll do the ratty rusty one as the Vorpostenboot and use your camo for the T version.

Thanks very much Bruno,
Mountbatten

02-15-06, 09:59 PM	#1
GlowwormGuy Planesman Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 187 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 0	Italian built Hi to the Betasom team, Any chance that perhaps you guys will be doing old style ships like the cruiser San Giorgio at Tobruk or ships that are Italian built like the Giorgios Averoff or the Thai cruiser Naresuan (w/c became the Italian cruiser Etna)? Just wondering, Mountbatten

02-16-06, 09:54 PM	#3
GlowwormGuy Planesman Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 187 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 0	Thanks very much Willi Really looking forward to anything Betasom builds. You guys are great! Right now I'm making do with the Kent type cruisers for the Averoff - they're actually a pretty close match - and if it were possible to just add four secondary twin turrets and redo the superstructure of the Kent... Here's hoping, Mountbatten

02-17-06, 06:35 PM	#4
Canarb Swabbie Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Italy Posts: 7 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	san Giorgio is in my heart __________________ http://www.maricosom.net/ http://digilander.libero.it/canarb/ http://canarb.altervista.org/index.htm

02-18-06, 06:45 AM	#5
GlowwormGuy Planesman Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 187 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 0	sister sister Well, hope to see it sailing sometime. The Greek armoured cruiser Averoff was the sister ship of the Italian cruisers Pisa and Amalfi. Right now I'm just using the Norfolk to stand in for it but it doesn't have those four 7.5 twin turrets. Hoping for some of those sweet old school ships someday! Mountbatten

02-22-06, 03:36 AM	#6
GlowwormGuy Planesman Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 187 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 0	Capitan Romani Class Are these in the works? Which present ships would be a good looking substitute for these would you think? Many thanks, Mountbatten

03-04-06, 01:14 AM	#7
GlowwormGuy Planesman Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 187 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 0	Italian built Here are some great views of these fine Italian built warships: http://warships.web4u.cz/lode.php?la...TRA&trida=Trad I was thinking if you guys were already doing Ariete perhaps a version of the Ariete with no turrets just guns would be similar to Trad. Also the design of the Etna/Naresuan class is quite similar to the Capitan Romani. http://warships.web4u.cz/lode.php?la...CLA&trida=Etna Kudos on the Gabbiano! That's a sweet boat! Mountbatten

03-06-06, 08:54 PM	#9
Bruno Lotse Sonar Guy Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: HMCS Toronto (K 538) Posts: 385 Downloads: 480 Uploads: 0	By changing this Flag parameter you can change nationality of the ship. The model would fly the colors of the country which correspond to values 1.2.3 etc. Try it. Historically, after 09.43 some Gabbiano corvettes were taken over by Kriegsmarine and became German T class, after the war some became French, others - Soviet ships (WW2 reparations). It's one of the great features of SH2/DC - customization. Hey, ask Mountbatten, should he have time he can do magnificent repaints the ships. He could make you German T out of Italian Gabbiano __________________ Wie einst Lili Marleen.

03-06-06, 10:32 PM	#10
GlowwormGuy Planesman Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 187 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 0	Thanks for the plug Bruno and yes I can (would love to!) do a repaint of the Gabbiano if you'd give me the colors or samples. I'm actually planning to use the old Gabbiano (DC version) as the German Vorpostenboote - I know should have a longer slimmer funnel - and I got a few new things kicking around in the cruiser category, repaints all though. Mountbatten

03-07-06, 03:10 AM	#11
JapLance Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	I had tried only in the viewer and there I could see no changes. After setting up a quick mission in the game itself, now I've realised that penant numbers change with every different UDF, but not the flag itself: they're all waving Italian flag.

03-07-06, 10:54 AM	#12
Bruno Lotse Sonar Guy Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: HMCS Toronto (K 538) Posts: 385 Downloads: 480 Uploads: 0	@Mountbatten Sure. Here is wartime Gabbiano in color Another Gabbiano Yet another These are color schema for NTP Orsa. Yet the same colors were applied to Gabbiano as well. Here are color schema in color using NCL Scipione Africano (Class Capitani Romani) and now NCL Duca D'Aosta This is German WWI veteran T class in Mediterrenian camo. T-3 actually Here's German starndard German T in the North Sea camo 'Kondor' and 'Falke'. Vorpostenboote should be in the same colors. Lots of them were just converted peacetime fishers. Cheers, Bruno O Mamma mia! What is that in my scope - Italian built? __________________ Wie einst Lili Marleen.

03-07-06, 05:46 PM	#14
Bruno Lotse Sonar Guy Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: HMCS Toronto (K 538) Posts: 385 Downloads: 480 Uploads: 0	Oh Mamma Mia! Looking good, veeeeery good! __________________ Wie einst Lili Marleen.

03-08-06, 09:31 PM	#15
GlowwormGuy Planesman Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 187 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 0	Vorposten done I'll do the ratty rusty one as the Vorpostenboot and use your camo for the T version. Thanks very much Bruno, Mountbatten