With regards to neutral merchant lights

oRGy · 08-29-05, 01:53 PM

(With thanks to CCIP for the image)

Does anyone know how the building textures are changed for nighttime? Would it be possible to the same to neutral merchant skins?

CCIP · 08-29-05, 02:06 PM

Hmm, there's a creative idea.

Does anyone know where these textures are stored? Maybe there IS a glowing texture there that we don't know about :hmm:

oRGy · 08-29-05, 02:17 PM

I wonder if they do change textures for night time?

My guess is that certain specific colour values are "earmarked" by the engine as ones that glow (i.e. no light is applied). Hmm...

KptnLt Eric Karle · 08-29-05, 02:23 PM

Thats a brillent idea oRGy, I'd love to see neutrals lit up at night. If this is possible it would be marvelous

oRGy · 08-29-05, 02:29 PM

Hmm.. it could be the game engine will only use these on buildings, of course.

More likely is that using the textures on freighters, if it works, will also make them appear lit up more than they should during daytime.

Presumably.

CWorth · 08-29-05, 02:29 PM

My concern is that since the merchant ships use the same textures whether they are enemy or not would that not mean that if you put lights on say a coastal merchant that the neutrals use would you not see the same lights on the enemy coastal merchant in game?

oRGy · 08-29-05, 02:33 PM

I believe you can get around this by using country-specific textures. At least, that's what sergbuto said in my 'neutral traffic' thread.

CWorth · 08-29-05, 02:36 PM

That would be great if you could...That would add that much more to the sim.

iambecomelife · 08-29-05, 06:12 PM

There are only two ways around this I can think of. Either clone the existing merchants to allow for nationality-specific coastal merchants, c2's etc or assign certain classes of ship only to neutral countries, using the data/roster files.

CB.. · 08-29-05, 06:30 PM

would be interesting perhaps more so for early war American ships as i have read that not only did they carry huge American flags painted on the sides of the hull ..but they allso flood-lit them to make doubly sure there was no chance of mistaken identity..?

now then here's the way to do this trick i reckon re the lights etc..forget the actuall merchant vessels them selves and concentrate on the cargo on the decks...these can be altered seperately from the actual vesels and i believe can be used on any vessel (?) ...so take one of the deck cargo textures and replace it with the lighted window texture from a night time building.. and bingo you have lights on any merchant you please simply by stipulating the lit window deck cargo in the cfg file...

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AlanSmithee · 08-30-05, 01:25 AM

I think the building textures are in data\library\Habor_kit.dat. There are some nighttime building textures there too, though I have no idea what triggers some windows to be lit up. I'll leave that to those with modding skills.

08-29-05, 01:53 PM	#1
oRGy Crusty Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 648 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	With regards to neutral merchant lights (With thanks to CCIP for the image) Does anyone know how the building textures are changed for nighttime? Would it be possible to the same to neutral merchant skins?

08-29-05, 02:06 PM	#2
CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	Hmm, there's a creative idea. Does anyone know where these textures are stored? Maybe there IS a glowing texture there that we don't know about :hmm: __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)

08-29-05, 02:23 PM	#4
KptnLt Eric Karle Ensign Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Ireland Posts: 229 Downloads: 30 Uploads: 0	Thats a brillent idea oRGy, I'd love to see neutrals lit up at night. If this is possible it would be marvelous __________________ My Mod's: Karle's Silent Hunter III Mods My Music: http://www.reverbnation.com/thisturbulentpriest

08-29-05, 06:12 PM	#9
iambecomelife Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 4,706 Downloads: 300 Uploads: 0	There are only two ways around this I can think of. Either clone the existing merchants to allow for nationality-specific coastal merchants, c2's etc or assign certain classes of ship only to neutral countries, using the data/roster files. __________________ https://www.facebook.com/WolvesoftheKaiser/

08-29-05, 06:30 PM	#10
CB.. Ace of the Deep Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: UK Posts: 1,278 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	would be interesting perhaps more so for early war American ships as i have read that not only did they carry huge American flags painted on the sides of the hull ..but they allso flood-lit them to make doubly sure there was no chance of mistaken identity..? now then here's the way to do this trick i reckon re the lights etc..forget the actuall merchant vessels them selves and concentrate on the cargo on the decks...these can be altered seperately from the actual vesels and i believe can be used on any vessel (?) ...so take one of the deck cargo textures and replace it with the lighted window texture from a night time building.. and bingo you have lights on any merchant you please simply by stipulating the lit window deck cargo in the cfg file... [Equipment 1] NodeName=M01 LinkName=CratePileL StartDate=19380101 EndDate=19421231 [Equipment 2] NodeName=M01 LinkName=PlatformL StartDate=19421231 EndDate=19451231 [Equipment 3] NodeName=M02 LinkName=CratePileL StartDate=19380101 EndDate=19401231 __________________ the world's tinyiest sh3 supermod- and other SH3/SH2 stuff http://www.ebort2.co.uk/ The best lack all conviction, while the worst Are full of passionate intensity. W.B.Yeats

08-29-05, 02:17 PM	#3
oRGy Crusty Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 648 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	I wonder if they do change textures for night time? My guess is that certain specific colour values are "earmarked" by the engine as ones that glow (i.e. no light is applied). Hmm...

08-29-05, 02:29 PM	#5
oRGy Crusty Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 648 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	Hmm.. it could be the game engine will only use these on buildings, of course. More likely is that using the textures on freighters, if it works, will also make them appear lit up more than they should during daytime. Presumably.

08-29-05, 02:29 PM	#6
CWorth Grey Wolf Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Gettysburg PA Posts: 845 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	My concern is that since the merchant ships use the same textures whether they are enemy or not would that not mean that if you put lights on say a coastal merchant that the neutrals use would you not see the same lights on the enemy coastal merchant in game?

08-29-05, 02:33 PM	#7
oRGy Crusty Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 648 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	I believe you can get around this by using country-specific textures. At least, that's what sergbuto said in my 'neutral traffic' thread.

08-29-05, 02:36 PM	#8
CWorth Grey Wolf Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Gettysburg PA Posts: 845 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	That would be great if you could...That would add that much more to the sim.

08-30-05, 01:25 AM	#11
AlanSmithee Torpedoman Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Chicago Expatriate Posts: 116 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	I think the building textures are in data\library\Habor_kit.dat. There are some nighttime building textures there too, though I have no idea what triggers some windows to be lit up. I'll leave that to those with modding skills.