Preference for conventional 65 or wakehomer.

Bellman · 08-23-05, 08:03 AM

As an Akula diver I welcome most of the Luftwolf and Amizaur mod

- but I prefer the previous (vanilla) wire guided
conventional 65 to their new wakehoming version without wires. :hmm:

Which do you prefer ?

Of course you would probably like the option to have both

- but that is not available (yet) :hmm:

Kapitan · 08-23-05, 10:55 AM

although i load out both i have more 65cm torpedos on board than any other weapon i prefer torpedos to missiles when attacking any vessel ship or sub but mainly as im under ice i load out only torpedos typial load will be 75% 65cm and the rest conventional 53cm

just curious bell man what akula do you drive ?

LuftWolf · 08-23-05, 10:57 AM

I have to add, you simply cannot believe how much the 65-76 torpedo rocks until you have sent it into a cloud of American, Nixie equipped warships, and checked the kill list 10 minutes later.

Who wants a ASW torpedo with a 900kg warhead, IMHO, that's a joke.

Snakeeyes · 08-23-05, 10:58 AM

Too bad the Russians removed them from service after the Kursk incident.

65-76s are my favorite anti-surface weapon in the entire game.

LuftWolf · 08-23-05, 10:59 AM

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Too bad the Russians removed them from service after the Kursk incident.

I don't think I can quite believe that... but maybe I'm off.

Kapitan · 08-23-05, 11:02 AM

they removed 65-76 one year after the kursk infact 3 days before kursk sailed into murmansk under giant 4

the 65-76 has been re designed and supposidly going to be redesignated 65-04 but it has yet to come of age

Bellman · 08-24-05, 03:24 AM

Very close to date - one voter makes the difference between existing and 50/50.

Of course the sub v sub divers are lurking deep not shallow like the '' sitting-duck''shooters.

Fish · 08-24-05, 04:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LuftWolf

I have to add, you simply cannot believe how much the 65-76 torpedo rocks until you have sent it into a cloud of American, Nixie equipped warships, and checked the kill list 10 minutes later.

Who wants a ASW torpedo with a 900kg warhead, IMHO, that's a joke.

Did you test it in a sub vs sub fight?

LuftWolf · 08-24-05, 08:40 AM

Yes. If you fire the torpedo at the correct depth (the depth of the target), the torpedo will home on the wake of the submarine.

Active decoys cause a disturbance in the water which causes the wakehomer to be temporarily confused, but usually reacquired quickly.

If the depth is not set close to the target depth, the weapon will not acquire.

If you want to use the 65-76 against subs, I see it being most effective in littoral contexts, when there is less of a depth range to worry about.

Bellman · 08-24-05, 11:32 AM

Not a great help in sub v sub I think. May prevent some from using this excellent mod. :hmm:

Kapitan · 08-24-05, 11:35 AM

bellman what akula do you drive ?

SquidB · 08-24-05, 11:55 AM

Thing is the version of the 65 that ships with DW doesnt exsist.

Again i think that the weapon had the wireguided/ sonar homing function put in as a gameplay tool.

As Id much rather play a sim than a game i think is wicked that we now have 'real' weapons to play with.

Fish · 08-24-05, 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bellman

Not a great help in sub v sub I think. May prevent some from using this excellent mod. :hmm:

Indeed.

Although , being a Seawolf diver?

Amizaur · 08-24-05, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Snakeeyes

Too bad the Russians removed them from service after the Kursk incident.

Too bad they didn't remove them BEFORE... It was great weapon and I miss it too but 118 people would still live...

P.S. Maybe it's not gone yet, because few years before Russians offered it for export as TT-5 heavyweight 650mm wake-homing torpedo. Probably with China in mind :-). Don't know if they are offering it now, after withdraw from service in own navy.

Bellman · 08-24-05, 02:34 PM

Yes Fish - having just recently jumped ship from SW (1 1/2 yrs SC/SCX) to the Ak.in DW.

LufAm transients are fair but they've stolen my 65 baby

SW divers are going to love this mod but its a great pity that the Ak, facing SW, FFG, MH60 and P3 has had
two wisdom teeth drawn. One was enough ! :hmm:

My old model is looking a bit seductive.

View Poll Results: Which 65 torp do you prefer ?
Conventional wire guided	8	38.10%
Wakehomeing (No wire gudance)	13	61.90%
Voters: 21. You may not vote on this poll

08-23-05, 08:03 AM	#1
Bellman Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 1,945 Downloads: 220 Uploads: 0	Preference for conventional 65 or wakehomer. As an Akula diver I welcome most of the Luftwolf and Amizaur mod - but I prefer the previous (vanilla) wire guided conventional 65 to their new wakehoming version without wires. :hmm: Which do you prefer ? Of course you would probably like the option to have both - but that is not available (yet) :hmm: __________________ Liberty, Equality, Fraternity

08-23-05, 10:55 AM	#2
Kapitan Sub Test Pilot Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK + Canada Posts: 7,130 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 7	although i load out both i have more 65cm torpedos on board than any other weapon i prefer torpedos to missiles when attacking any vessel ship or sub but mainly as im under ice i load out only torpedos typial load will be 75% 65cm and the rest conventional 53cm just curious bell man what akula do you drive ? __________________ DONT FORGET if you like a post to nominate it by using the blue diamond Find out about Museum Ships here: https://www.museumships.us/ Flickr for all my pictures: https://www.flickr.com/photos/131313936@N03/ Navy general board articles: https://www.navygeneralboard.com/author/aegis/

08-23-05, 10:57 AM	#3
LuftWolf Ocean Warrior Join Date: May 2005 Location: Free New York Posts: 3,167 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	I have to add, you simply cannot believe how much the 65-76 torpedo rocks until you have sent it into a cloud of American, Nixie equipped warships, and checked the kill list 10 minutes later. Who wants a ASW torpedo with a 900kg warhead, IMHO, that's a joke. __________________ LW

08-23-05, 10:58 AM	#4
Snakeeyes Captain Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: trailing 1400 yards behind an Oscar-II with my outer doors open Posts: 488 Downloads: 54 Uploads: 0	Too bad the Russians removed them from service after the Kursk incident. 65-76s are my favorite anti-surface weapon in the entire game. __________________ -- "There's little room in Tupolev's heart for anyone but Tupolev."

08-23-05, 11:02 AM	#6
Kapitan Sub Test Pilot Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK + Canada Posts: 7,130 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 7	they removed 65-76 one year after the kursk infact 3 days before kursk sailed into murmansk under giant 4 the 65-76 has been re designed and supposidly going to be redesignated 65-04 but it has yet to come of age __________________ DONT FORGET if you like a post to nominate it by using the blue diamond Find out about Museum Ships here: https://www.museumships.us/ Flickr for all my pictures: https://www.flickr.com/photos/131313936@N03/ Navy general board articles: https://www.navygeneralboard.com/author/aegis/

08-24-05, 03:24 AM	#7
Bellman Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 1,945 Downloads: 220 Uploads: 0	Very close to date - one voter makes the difference between existing and 50/50. Of course the sub v sub divers are lurking deep not shallow like the '' sitting-duck''shooters. __________________ Liberty, Equality, Fraternity

08-24-05, 08:40 AM	#9
LuftWolf Ocean Warrior Join Date: May 2005 Location: Free New York Posts: 3,167 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Yes. If you fire the torpedo at the correct depth (the depth of the target), the torpedo will home on the wake of the submarine. Active decoys cause a disturbance in the water which causes the wakehomer to be temporarily confused, but usually reacquired quickly. If the depth is not set close to the target depth, the weapon will not acquire. If you want to use the 65-76 against subs, I see it being most effective in littoral contexts, when there is less of a depth range to worry about. __________________ LW

08-24-05, 11:32 AM	#10
Bellman Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 1,945 Downloads: 220 Uploads: 0	Not a great help in sub v sub I think. May prevent some from using this excellent mod. :hmm: __________________ Liberty, Equality, Fraternity

08-24-05, 11:35 AM	#11
Kapitan Sub Test Pilot Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK + Canada Posts: 7,130 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 7	bellman what akula do you drive ? __________________ DONT FORGET if you like a post to nominate it by using the blue diamond Find out about Museum Ships here: https://www.museumships.us/ Flickr for all my pictures: https://www.flickr.com/photos/131313936@N03/ Navy general board articles: https://www.navygeneralboard.com/author/aegis/

08-24-05, 11:55 AM	#12
SquidB Officer Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Lytham UK Posts: 244 Downloads: 169 Uploads: 0	Thing is the version of the 65 that ships with DW doesnt exsist. Again i think that the weapon had the wireguided/ sonar homing function put in as a gameplay tool. As Id much rather play a sim than a game i think is wicked that we now have 'real' weapons to play with.

08-24-05, 02:34 PM	#15
Bellman Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 1,945 Downloads: 220 Uploads: 0	Yes Fish - having just recently jumped ship from SW (1 1/2 yrs SC/SCX) to the Ak.in DW. LufAm transients are fair but they've stolen my 65 baby SW divers are going to love this mod but its a great pity that the Ak, facing SW, FFG, MH60 and P3 has had two wisdom teeth drawn. One was enough ! :hmm: My old model is looking a bit seductive. __________________ Liberty, Equality, Fraternity