I hope no one noticed.

glenno · 08-22-05, 02:21 AM

I hope none of my crew noticed i left the periscope up when we surfaced

. Ive done it quite a few times . Decided i would take a look around with my binoculars , woops

. I dont think the crew are too happy with me

Kernel · 08-22-05, 03:14 AM

No no, your the captain. It wasn't a mistake you meant to do it.

(Yep I've done that before.

)

Damo1977 · 08-22-05, 03:20 AM

I have never done it, even after hundreds of patrols

Anyhow my crew dry their underwear on it!!

Nopileo · 08-22-05, 03:21 AM

Are we not supposed to do this? I do that sometimes as well... :P

I remember in SH2 I sometimes used to cruise with the scope up intentionally. It actually gave you longer visual range, like it does in real life of course. Not sure if this is modeled in SH3, but I guess it is.

I felt kind of stupid doing that, and asked about it here. Then someone mentioned that in real life they even tied watch crew to the top of the scope to really benefit from the extra height!

Col7777 · 08-22-05, 03:25 AM

I believe on odd occasions they did actually use the raised periscope to get e better look.

Rhodes · 08-22-05, 06:08 AM

Done the same thing myself, it's the best in heavy seas, but when one crash drive and forgett the periscope is up. Well, I don't recomend...

SmokinTep · 08-22-05, 06:12 AM

I always leave the scope up. I may lower it a bit while surfaced to give a smaller ID on the horizon. When I dive, it is the first thing that I do to lower it.

1916 · 08-22-05, 09:43 AM

There's a picture on uboat.net where they tied a crewmember to the top of a viewing platform... looks pretty funny. The technology used to solve the sight problem is a bit more far fetched than the periscope idea.

http://www.uboat.net/technical/bachstelze.htm

KL Seestern · 08-22-05, 10:20 AM

It was common practice on the larger boats of the USN to send a crewman up on to the fixed periscope shears to gain a few extra yards of height for observation. You can see the periscope shears in the photo at http://www.maritime.org/tour/tpiervr.htm (the broom tied at the top was a tradition upon returning from a patrol with a 'clean sweep', i.e. all torpedoes fired hit their targets).

Floater · 08-22-05, 10:55 AM

Yes, I sometimes forget to lower the scope when surfacing, and only notice it in external or bridge views.

The USN often cruised on the surface with a raised scope; the Kriegsmarine doctrines explicitly forbade the technique on the grounds that it could be seen from further away, which I think was a mistake. After all, a periscope is a lot thinner than a ship, and the USN certainly found the technique useful.

There's a picture in Robert Stern's Type VII U-boats (p.66) which shows a partially-raised scope with a crew member strapped to the head. The guy's using binoculars. That's the only reference I know of to a U-boat having its scope up on the surface.

The Avon Lady · 08-22-05, 11:03 AM

I prefer using my scope during a might surface attack.

After all, only the scope gives you the option of a 1.5x view. With the UZO, you're forced to a 7x view.

Argh! Look at the pic in my sig!

tycho102 · 08-22-05, 12:24 PM

I use the scope all the time, too.

I tend to use the observation scope at night, and raise it just above the shears. It looks kind of wierd, but it works out for me. At first (v1.2), it avoided the bow spray problem completely. Now I've just gotten so used to it, that's what I do.

FesterShinetop · 08-22-05, 01:38 PM

Hey, you're the captain... you can blame someone else!

But I've used it as well sometimes to get a better field of view, always intentionally of course...

Hehe, the pic with the viewing platform looks weird indeed, but I could understand it would be usefull... as long as the sees are not too wild

gdogghenrikson · 08-22-05, 11:59 PM

I have done it lots of times

08-22-05, 02:21 AM	#1
glenno Electrician's Mate Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 138 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I hope no one noticed. I hope none of my crew noticed i left the periscope up when we surfaced . Ive done it quite a few times . Decided i would take a look around with my binoculars , woops . I dont think the crew are too happy with me

08-22-05, 03:20 AM	#3
Damo1977 Captain Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Adelaide, South Australia Posts: 487 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I have never done it, even after hundreds of patrols Anyhow my crew dry their underwear on it!! __________________ \"If man is called to be to be a streetsweeper, he should sweep streets even as Michelangelo painted, or Beethoven composed music, or Shakespeare wrote poetry. He should sweep streets so well that all the hosts of heaven and earth will pause to say, here lived a great streetsweeper who did his job well\" Martin Luther King, Jr

08-22-05, 03:25 AM	#5
Col7777 Grey Wolf Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Manchester UK Posts: 944 Downloads: 260 Uploads: 0	I believe on odd occasions they did actually use the raised periscope to get e better look. __________________ Silent and Violent

08-22-05, 06:08 AM	#6
Rhodes Silent Hunter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Figueira da Foz, Portugal Posts: 4,515 Downloads: 110 Uploads: 0	Done the same thing myself, it's the best in heavy seas, but when one crash drive and forgett the periscope is up. Well, I don't recomend... __________________ http://www.flickr.com/photos/16416646@N05/

08-22-05, 09:43 AM	#8
1916 Loader Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Captain's Quarters eating dinner Posts: 82 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	There's a picture on uboat.net where they tied a crewmember to the top of a viewing platform... looks pretty funny. The technology used to solve the sight problem is a bit more far fetched than the periscope idea. http://www.uboat.net/technical/bachstelze.htm __________________ U-100 1. Flotilla Brest, France New Rammstein album out October 24, 2005!!

08-22-05, 03:14 AM	#2
Kernel Watch Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 24 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	No no, your the captain. It wasn't a mistake you meant to do it. (Yep I've done that before. )

08-22-05, 03:21 AM	#4
Nopileo Watch Officer Join Date: May 2005 Location: Norway Posts: 333 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	Are we not supposed to do this? I do that sometimes as well... :P I remember in SH2 I sometimes used to cruise with the scope up intentionally. It actually gave you longer visual range, like it does in real life of course. Not sure if this is modeled in SH3, but I guess it is. I felt kind of stupid doing that, and asked about it here. Then someone mentioned that in real life they even tied watch crew to the top of the scope to really benefit from the extra height!

08-22-05, 06:12 AM	#7
SmokinTep Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Suffolk, Virginia Posts: 1,027 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I always leave the scope up. I may lower it a bit while surfaced to give a smaller ID on the horizon. When I dive, it is the first thing that I do to lower it.

08-22-05, 10:20 AM	#9
KL Seestern Mate Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 53 Downloads: 16 Uploads: 0	It was common practice on the larger boats of the USN to send a crewman up on to the fixed periscope shears to gain a few extra yards of height for observation. You can see the periscope shears in the photo at http://www.maritime.org/tour/tpiervr.htm (the broom tied at the top was a tradition upon returning from a patrol with a 'clean sweep', i.e. all torpedoes fired hit their targets).

08-22-05, 10:55 AM	#10
Floater Pacific Aces Dev Team Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: England Posts: 158 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	Yes, I sometimes forget to lower the scope when surfacing, and only notice it in external or bridge views. The USN often cruised on the surface with a raised scope; the Kriegsmarine doctrines explicitly forbade the technique on the grounds that it could be seen from further away, which I think was a mistake. After all, a periscope is a lot thinner than a ship, and the USN certainly found the technique useful. There's a picture in Robert Stern's Type VII U-boats (p.66) which shows a partially-raised scope with a crew member strapped to the head. The guy's using binoculars. That's the only reference I know of to a U-boat having its scope up on the surface. __________________ Kriegstanz website Kriegstanz forum

08-22-05, 11:03 AM	#11
The Avon Lady Über Mom Join Date: May 2005 Location: Jerusalem, Israel Posts: 6,147 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	I prefer using my scope during a might surface attack. After all, only the scope gives you the option of a 1.5x view. With the UZO, you're forced to a 7x view. Argh! Look at the pic in my sig! __________________ "Victory will come to us from the wombs of our women." - Houari Boumedienne, President of Algeria, Speech before the UN, 1974

08-22-05, 12:24 PM	#12
tycho102 Ace of the Deep Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,100 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I use the scope all the time, too. I tend to use the observation scope at night, and raise it just above the shears. It looks kind of wierd, but it works out for me. At first (v1.2), it avoided the bow spray problem completely. Now I've just gotten so used to it, that's what I do. __________________ My little Silent Hunter 4 repository

08-22-05, 01:38 PM	#13
FesterShinetop Gunner Join Date: May 2005 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 96 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	Hey, you're the captain... you can blame someone else! But I've used it as well sometimes to get a better field of view, always intentionally of course... Hehe, the pic with the viewing platform looks weird indeed, but I could understand it would be usefull... as long as the sees are not too wild

08-22-05, 11:59 PM	#14
gdogghenrikson Grey Wolf Join Date: May 2005 Location: USA Posts: 978 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	I have done it lots of times __________________ And when you loose control, you'll reap the harvest you have sown.