You want music! I'll give you music!

Venatore · 07-28-05, 05:54 AM

If your looking for the one stop place for your gramophone music go here

http://wahmoh.tripod.com/

Venatore

07-28-05, 06:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Venatore

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We're not interested in nazi stuff inhere.

rulle34 · 07-28-05, 07:20 AM

Exactly!
This site looked more like a nazi-propaganda-site rather than a non-political site with historical music!

For me it's important to keep apart reality and historical things from nazi-propaganda. It doesn't belong here at all!

/Rulle

Seminole · 07-28-05, 08:50 AM

Nazi propaganda music??????
From the link:

Adnaswutschno gremit kalakÃ³ltschik The Little Bell - Melody
ÐÑ… Ñ‚Ñ‹, ÑÑ‚ÐµÐ¿ÑŒ ÑˆÐ¸Ñ€Ð¾ÐºÐ°Ñ Ah, you the wide steppe - Melody
Bajuschki baju - Melody
Ð¡Ð»Ð°Ð²Ð½Ð¾Ðµ Ð¼Ð¾Ñ€Ðµ â€” ÑÐ²ÑÑ‰ÐµÐ½Ð½Ñ‹Ð¹ ÑŒÐ°Ð¹ÐºÐ°Ð» / Bajkal
Ð’Ð·ÑÐ² Ð‘Ð¸ Ñ Ð‘Ð°Ð½Ð´ÑƒÑ€Ñƒ / Bandura
Ð’Ð¾Ð»ÑŒÐ½Ñ‹Ð¹ Ð¿ÐµÑ€ÐµÐ²Ð¾Ð´ Panzerlied - Melody
ÐÐ¹, ÑƒÑ…Ð½ÐµÐ¼! Burlaki Volga Boat Song - Melody
Dark Eyes - Melody
Ð”Ð¾Ñ€Ð¾Ð³Ð¸ / Dorogi
Dve Gitari Two Guitars - Melody
God save the noble Czar - Melody
Goro Gori Moja Zvezda Shine shine my star
GrustÒ‘-toska Longing
Ja vstretil vas I met you
Hymn of Russia - Melody
Hymn of the USSR - Melody
ÐšÐ°Ð»Ð¸Ð½ÐºÐ° Kalinka - Melody
ÐšÐ°Ñ‚ÑŽÑˆÐ° / Katjusha - Melody
Kolokol'tchik
KorÃ³bushka - Melody
Ð›Ð¸Ð»Ð¸ ÐœÐ°Ñ€Ð»ÐµÐ½ Lili Marleen - Melody - Notes
Ljubo bratcy ljubo
ÐœÐ°Ñ€Ñˆ ÑˆÑ‚ÑƒÑ€Ð¼Ð¾Ð²Ñ‹Ñ… Ð±Ð°Ñ‚Ð°Ð»ÑŒÐ¾Ð½Ð¾Ð² - Melody
Po Donu guljaet Kazak molodoj
Podmoskovnye vetchera Evenings Near Moscow - Melody
Rosprjagajte, hlopcy, koni Unharness the horses lads
Sascha liebt nicht groÃŸe Worte - Melodie
Ð©ÐµÐ´Ñ€Ð¸Ðº (ÑƒÐºÑ€Ð°Ð¸Ð½ÑÐºÐ°Ñ Ð½Ð°Ñ€Ð¾Ð´Ð½Ð°Ñ Ð¿ÐµÑÐ½Ñ) - Melody
Stenka Razin - Melody
Ð˜Ð·-Ð·Ð° Ð¾ÑÑ‚Ñ€Ð¾Ð²Ð° Ð½Ð° ÑÑ‚Ñ€ÐµÐ¶ÐµÐ½ÑŒ - Melody
Step' da step' krugom Steppe only Steppe all around
Suliko - Melody
Swjaschtschennaja Woina
Ð¡Ð²ÐµÑ‚Ð¸Ñ‚ ÑÐ²ÐµÑ‚ÐµÐ» Ð¼ÐµÑÑÑ† The young moon is rising - Melody
Ð¡Ð²ÐµÑ‚Ð¸Ñ‚ Ð¼ÐµÑÑÑ† Svyetit myesyits / The shining moon - Melody
Ð”Ð¾Ñ€Ð¾Ð³Ð¾Ð¹ Ð´Ð»Ð¸Ð½Ð½Ð¾ÑŽ Those were the days - Melody
Ð£Ð·Ð½Ð¸Ðº The Prisoner - Melody
Utjos The Rock
V ataku stal'nymi riabami
Varjag Viking
Vetchernij zvon Those Evening Bells - Melody
Vot mtchitsja trojka udalaja
Ð’ Ñ‚ÐµÐ¼Ð½Ð¾Ð¼ Ð»ÐµÑÐµ / V tyomnom lese - Melody

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Ilya Kudriashov's GHQ RU

Not only that but the German peroid songs are mostly the same ones that were so highly touted in the gramaphone music packs that came out soon after SHIII v 1.0 was released.

Shadow9216 · 07-28-05, 08:56 AM

Nice list, did I miss Polushka Pole on the list?

CCIP · 07-28-05, 09:27 AM

I think it's just a case of unfortunate overuse of that darn flag in the site design, not a propaganda site. I don't assume Nazi propaganda would be so eager to use Russian servers :hmm:

The Avon Lady · 07-28-05, 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CCIP

I don't assume Nazi propaganda would be so eager to use Russian servers :hmm:

There's no reason [url=http://english.pravda.ru/main/18/87/345/10666_skinheads.html?107]why they wouldn't.

CCIP · 07-28-05, 11:06 AM

That's slightly different, especially given the Nazi position on Slavs in general - although these, too, are fine young white supremacists.

Anyway... just get the music, or not get it. I didn't see anything about that site other than very unfortunate design - might be wrong though :hmm:

U-1966 · 07-28-05, 12:34 PM

U-Boat Crews didn't even listen to that Nazi Stuff or Military Marches on board anyway. They listened to the popular German, French, and English Tunes of the Day..

Terrapin's site has a treasure trove of 1930s and 1940s music.

rulle34 · 07-28-05, 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seminole

Nazi propaganda music??????
From the link:

If I was wrong I apologize of jumping on this. The site did very much look like it was a propaganda site and nothing else. The name "WAHM"=Wehrmacht & Adolf Hitler Music in combination with this whole bunch of naziflags waving almost everywhere just gave me that impression.

I'm sorry!
/Rulle

redstorm101 · 07-28-05, 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Venatore

If your looking for the one stop place for your gramophone music go here

http://wahmoh.tripod.com/

Venatore

Well the site still creeps me out...............

07-28-05, 02:24 PM

Its just Tripod. No doubt it does mainly cater to neo-nazi types - cause let's face it, most people in the world are not history buffs and could care less about any music from WWII Germany, or France for that matter.

The America I grew up in once believed (still does supposedly) that people should be allowed to believe anything, read anything, and display anything that they want (with in reason). The idea was also that TRUTH has nothing to fear from facts or ideas of any type.
So growing up those who considered themselves well read were expected to have read Mein Kampf, along with anything else available from Nazi Germany. Also that would include Communist dogmas and about anything else under the sun.

I know many Americans view the fact the Germany today does not allow Nazi emblems in such things as games to be the same thing as tyrany - MIND CONTROL - no different than something Hitler might create.

If the Germans can't handle Nazi dogma today, it would either mean that the said dogma was somehow true and must thus be hidden lest it overwhelm the German people, or it would mean that the Nazi dogma is BS, but that the German populous lacks common sense and are like children who must be led around by the nose.

I am part Native American - a term I hate because it is politically correct - and thus I refer to myself as an 'INJUN'. Nothing gives dogmas or words more power than FEAR of them. Like '******'. Yeah, I can use that term since in the school I attended of 700 white boys I was often called ******. Its how I learned to fight. But you European pussy-whips seem never to understand that you can't legislate common sense. Your people will only learn to see through crapy dogma if they are allowed to learn it and get past it.

Do you remember getting picked on by other boys in your neighborhood? Would your mother coming out to PROTECT you have made things BETTER? Or worse? You in Europe are always wanting governments that are big MAMAs. Hence your population never grows up. The European mama-governments need to allow the Germans the freedoms to openly connect with their Nazi past. Only in this way will those emblems lose their old power. Anything made 'naughty' continues both to retain its power and to gain in power. I am not saying Germany should allow people to form the old Nazi party, though perhaps even that would be a good idea.

I recall how when I was a kid (before 3 rifles took down JFK in Dallas) an American could verbally threaten the President's life, or threaten all kinds of murder, but the police would just say, until the guys actually does something we can't do a thing. A lot of people made threats. But few ever did anything. Most people like that blew off steam and cooled off. And their big mouths alerted people to their twisted thinking and this has value too. Now, such nuts mainly remain QUIET, and you don't see them until they show up with a gun.

Its too bad Europe (and now America) can't trust their people to be free. If people are not trusted, they will never become trustworthy.

macstu23 · 07-28-05, 03:21 PM

I agree with that actually. Right on. The Nazis existed, as did their symbolism, no denying it. The more we understand about why it happened, then the better prepared we are to prevent it from ever happening again, God forbid. Dont let fear erode democracy.

Though I do object to being called a pussy whip. So too would my Grandad who fought the Nazis in Africa, Italy, and Normandy before malaria finally killed him in '53. Still, Native American Injuns are cool, so I'll let you off. :P

Out of interest, a phrase I learned on a trip across Canada was 'Aboriginal American'. Is that considered better or worse than 'Native'?

redstorm101 · 07-28-05, 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seaboy

Its just Tripod. No doubt it does mainly cater to neo-nazi types - cause let's face it, most people in the world are not history buffs and could care less about any music from WWII Germany, or France for that matter.

The America I grew up in once believed (still does supposedly) that people should be allowed to believe anything, read anything, and display anything that they want (with in reason). The idea was also that TRUTH has nothing to fear from facts or ideas of any type.
So growing up those who considered themselves well read were expected to have read Mein Kampf, along with anything else available from Nazi Germany. Also that would include Communist dogmas and about anything else under the sun.

I know many Americans view the fact the Germany today does not allow Nazi emblems in such things as games to be the same thing as tyrany - MIND CONTROL - no different than something Hitler might create.

If the Germans can't handle Nazi dogma today, it would either mean that the said dogma was somehow true and must thus be hidden lest it overwhelm the German people, or it would mean that the Nazi dogma is BS, but that the German populous lacks common sense and are like children who must be led around by the nose.

I am part Native American - a term I hate because it is politically correct - and thus I refer to myself as an 'INJUN'. Nothing gives dogmas or words more power than FEAR of them. Like '******'. Yeah, I can use that term since in the school I attended of 700 white boys I was often called ******. Its how I learned to fight. But you European pussy-whips seem never to understand that you can't legislate common sense. Your people will only learn to see through crapy dogma if they are allowed to learn it and get past it.

Do you remember getting picked on by other boys in your neighborhood? Would your mother coming out to PROTECT you have made things BETTER? Or worse? You in Europe are always wanting governments that are big MAMAs. Hence your population never grows up. The European mama-governments need to allow the Germans the freedoms to openly connect with their Nazi past. Only in this way will those emblems lose their old power. Anything made 'naughty' continues both to retain its power and to gain in power. I am not saying Germany should allow people to form the old Nazi party, though perhaps even that would be a good idea.

I recall how when I was a kid (before 3 rifles took down JFK in Dallas) an American could verbally threaten the President's life, or threaten all kinds of murder, but the police would just say, until the guys actually does something we can't do a thing. A lot of people made threats. But few ever did anything. Most people like that blew off steam and cooled off. And their big mouths alerted people to their twisted thinking and this has value too. Now, such nuts mainly remain QUIET, and you don't see them until they show up with a gun.

Its too bad Europe (and now America) can't trust their people to be free. If people are not trusted, they will never become trustworthy.

I am part Native American - a term I hate because it is politically correct - and thus I refer to myself as an 'INJUN'. Nothing gives dogmas or words more power than FEAR of them. Like '******'. Yeah, I can use that term since in the school I attended of 700 white boys I was often called ******. Its how I learned to fight. But you European pussy-whips seem never to understand that you can't legislate common sense. Your people will only learn to see through crapy dogma if they are allowed to learn it and get past it.

seeboy.......I often like your Ideas about the "sim"...but some of the stuff that comes out of your mouth is........well ...no one has the right to use that word!!!! I feel you need to pull you head out of your. "cloud".....

redstorm101............................ :|\

Capn Tucker · 07-28-05, 09:34 PM

Some of what Seaboy said is true. Trying to cover up unpleasant history and pretend it never happened will only ensure that it DOES happen again, as in the old saying "He who forgets history is doomed to repeat it".
The European ostrich needs to get its head out of the sand. That said, I think the biggest factor in all this is that the Russians have vowed to intervene if Nazism is "revived" in Germany. Public display of the Nazi paraphernalia during the Cold War could concieveably have been justification for the Soviets to invade.
Nowadays though, with the Wall gone and the Warsaw Pact a fading memory, that probably isn't too likely. And before the flames begin, I'm not advocating the public display of said items. But this sickening political correctness we now have desperately needs to be put to bed...

07-28-05, 05:54 AM	#1
Venatore Admiral Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Australia:- Sydney Posts: 2,049 Downloads: 68 Uploads: 0	You want music! I'll give you music! If your looking for the one stop place for your gramophone music go here http://wahmoh.tripod.com/ Venatore

07-28-05, 09:27 AM	#6
CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	I think it's just a case of unfortunate overuse of that darn flag in the site design, not a propaganda site. I don't assume Nazi propaganda would be so eager to use Russian servers :hmm: __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)

07-28-05, 11:06 AM	#8
CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	That's slightly different, especially given the Nazi position on Slavs in general - although these, too, are fine young white supremacists. Anyway... just get the music, or not get it. I didn't see anything about that site other than very unfortunate design - might be wrong though :hmm: __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)

07-28-05, 07:20 AM	#3
rulle34 Grey Wolf Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Sweden Posts: 835 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	Exactly! This site looked more like a nazi-propaganda-site rather than a non-political site with historical music! For me it's important to keep apart reality and historical things from nazi-propaganda. It doesn't belong here at all! /Rulle

07-28-05, 08:50 AM	#4
Seminole Ace of the Deep Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Oregon Posts: 1,012 Downloads: 102 Uploads: 0	Nazi propaganda music?????? From the link: Adnaswutschno gremit kalakÃ³ltschik The Little Bell - Melody ÐÑ… Ñ‚Ñ‹, ÑÑ‚ÐµÐ¿ÑŒ ÑˆÐ¸Ñ€Ð¾ÐºÐ°Ñ Ah, you the wide steppe - Melody Bajuschki baju - Melody Ð¡Ð»Ð°Ð²Ð½Ð¾Ðµ Ð¼Ð¾Ñ€Ðµ â€” ÑÐ²ÑÑ‰ÐµÐ½Ð½Ñ‹Ð¹ ÑŒÐ°Ð¹ÐºÐ°Ð» / Bajkal Ð’Ð·ÑÐ² Ð‘Ð¸ Ñ Ð‘Ð°Ð½Ð´ÑƒÑ€Ñƒ / Bandura Ð’Ð¾Ð»ÑŒÐ½Ñ‹Ð¹ Ð¿ÐµÑ€ÐµÐ²Ð¾Ð´ Panzerlied - Melody ÐÐ¹, ÑƒÑ…Ð½ÐµÐ¼! Burlaki Volga Boat Song - Melody Dark Eyes - Melody Ð”Ð¾Ñ€Ð¾Ð³Ð¸ / Dorogi Dve Gitari Two Guitars - Melody God save the noble Czar - Melody Goro Gori Moja Zvezda Shine shine my star GrustÒ‘-toska Longing Ja vstretil vas I met you Hymn of Russia - Melody Hymn of the USSR - Melody ÐšÐ°Ð»Ð¸Ð½ÐºÐ° Kalinka - Melody ÐšÐ°Ñ‚ÑŽÑˆÐ° / Katjusha - Melody Kolokol'tchik KorÃ³bushka - Melody Ð›Ð¸Ð»Ð¸ ÐœÐ°Ñ€Ð»ÐµÐ½ Lili Marleen - Melody - Notes Ljubo bratcy ljubo ÐœÐ°Ñ€Ñˆ ÑˆÑ‚ÑƒÑ€Ð¼Ð¾Ð²Ñ‹Ñ… Ð±Ð°Ñ‚Ð°Ð»ÑŒÐ¾Ð½Ð¾Ð² - Melody Po Donu guljaet Kazak molodoj Podmoskovnye vetchera Evenings Near Moscow - Melody Rosprjagajte, hlopcy, koni Unharness the horses lads Sascha liebt nicht groÃŸe Worte - Melodie Ð©ÐµÐ´Ñ€Ð¸Ðº (ÑƒÐºÑ€Ð°Ð¸Ð½ÑÐºÐ°Ñ Ð½Ð°Ñ€Ð¾Ð´Ð½Ð°Ñ Ð¿ÐµÑÐ½Ñ) - Melody Stenka Razin - Melody Ð˜Ð·-Ð·Ð° Ð¾ÑÑ‚Ñ€Ð¾Ð²Ð° Ð½Ð° ÑÑ‚Ñ€ÐµÐ¶ÐµÐ½ÑŒ - Melody Step' da step' krugom Steppe only Steppe all around Suliko - Melody Swjaschtschennaja Woina Ð¡Ð²ÐµÑ‚Ð¸Ñ‚ ÑÐ²ÐµÑ‚ÐµÐ» Ð¼ÐµÑÑÑ† The young moon is rising - Melody Ð¡Ð²ÐµÑ‚Ð¸Ñ‚ Ð¼ÐµÑÑÑ† Svyetit myesyits / The shining moon - Melody Ð”Ð¾Ñ€Ð¾Ð³Ð¾Ð¹ Ð´Ð»Ð¸Ð½Ð½Ð¾ÑŽ Those were the days - Melody Ð£Ð·Ð½Ð¸Ðº The Prisoner - Melody Utjos The Rock V ataku stal'nymi riabami Varjag Viking Vetchernij zvon Those Evening Bells - Melody Vot mtchitsja trojka udalaja Ð’ Ñ‚ÐµÐ¼Ð½Ð¾Ð¼ Ð»ÐµÑÐµ / V tyomnom lese - Melody Songs of WWII Ð¡Ð’Ð¯Ð©Ð•ÐÐÐÐ¯ Ð’ÐžÐ™ÐÐ Ð¢Ð•ÐœÐÐÐ¯ ÐÐžÐ§Ð¬ Ð ÐÐ—ÐœÐ•Ð§Ð¢ÐÐ›Ð¡Ð¯ Ð¡ÐžÐ›Ð”ÐÐ¢ ÐœÐžÐ›ÐžÐ”ÐžÐ™ Ð¢Ð£Ð›Ð¬Ð¡ÐšÐÐ¯ Ð’Ð˜ÐÐ¢ÐžÐ’ÐžÐ§ÐšÐ Ð£ ÐšÐ Ð˜ÐÐ˜Ð¦Ð« Ð¡ÐÐœÐžÐ’ÐÐ Ð«-Ð¡ÐÐœÐžÐŸÐÐ›Ð« ÐŸÐ•Ð¡ÐÐ¯ Ðž Ð›ÐÐ”ÐžÐ“Ð• Ð Ð¯Ð—ÐÐÐžÐ§ÐšÐ Ð¢Ð£Ð§Ð˜ ÐÐÐ” Ð“ÐžÐ ÐžÐ”ÐžÐœ Ð’Ð¡Ð¢ÐÐ›Ð˜ ÐœÐÐ Ð¨ ÐÐ Ð¢Ð˜Ð›Ð›Ð•Ð Ð˜Ð˜ ÐŸÐ ÐžÐ©ÐÐ™Ð¢Ð•, Ð¡ÐšÐÐ›Ð˜Ð¡Ð¢Ð«Ð• Ð“ÐžÐ Ð« Ð¡Ð˜ÐÐ˜Ð™ ÐŸÐ›ÐÐ¢ÐžÐ§Ð•Ðš Ð˜ ÐÐ• Ð ÐÐ—, Ð˜ ÐÐ• Ð”Ð’Ð! ÐŸÐÐ Ð•ÐÐ¬ Ð¡ Ð’ÐÐ¡Ð˜Ð›Ð¬Ð•Ð’Ð¡ÐšÐžÐ“Ðž ÐžÐ¡Ð¢Ð ÐžÐ’Ð Ð˜Ð”Ð£ ÐŸÐž Ð—ÐÐÐšÐžÐœÐžÐ™ Ð”ÐžÐ ÐžÐ–ÐšÐ• ÐšÐÐ—ÐÐš Ð£Ð¥ÐžÐ”Ð˜Ð› ÐÐ Ð’ÐžÐ™ÐÐ£ ÐšÐžÐ“Ð”Ð ÐŸÐ•Ð¡ÐÐ® ÐŸÐžÐ•Ð¨Ð¬... ÐŸÐ•Ð¡ÐÐ¯ ÐÐ Ð¢Ð˜Ð›Ð›Ð•Ð Ð˜Ð¡Ð¢ÐžÐ’ Ð•Ð¡Ð¢Ð¬ ÐÐ Ð¡Ð•Ð’Ð•Ð Ð• Ð¥ÐžÐ ÐžÐ¨Ð˜Ð™ Ð“ÐžÐ ÐžÐ”ÐžÐš Ð˜Ð“Ð ÐÐ™, ÐœÐžÐ™ Ð‘ÐÐ¯Ð! Ð›Ð®Ð‘Ð˜ÐœÐ«Ð™ Ð“ÐžÐ ÐžÐ” ÐŸÐ•Ð¡ÐÐ¯ Ðž Ð”ÐÐ•ÐŸÐ Ð• ÐœÐžÐ¯ Ð›Ð®Ð‘Ð˜ÐœÐÐ¯ ÐÐ¥, ÐšÐÐš Ð‘Ð« Ð”ÐžÐ–Ð˜Ð¢Ð¬ Ð‘Ð«... (Ð¢Ñ‹ Ð¶Ð´ÐµÑˆÑŒ, Ð›Ð¸Ð·Ð°Ð²ÐµÑ‚Ð°) Ð”ÐžÐ ÐžÐ“Ð ÐÐ Ð‘Ð•Ð Ð›Ð˜Ð Ð¡Ð›Ð£Ð§ÐÐ™ÐÐ«Ð™ Ð’ÐÐ›Ð¬Ð¡ Ð¢Ð« ÐžÐ”Ð•Ð¡Ð¡Ð˜Ð¢, ÐœÐ˜Ð¨ÐšÐ! Ð“ÐžÐ›Ð£Ð‘ÐžÐ™ ÐšÐžÐÐ’Ð•Ð Ð¢ Ð—ÐÐ’Ð•Ð¢ÐÐ«Ð™ ÐšÐÐœÐ•ÐÐ¬ Ð“Ð Ð£Ð¡Ð¢ÐÐ«Ð• Ð˜Ð’Ð« ÐžÐ™, Ð¢Ð£ÐœÐÐÐ¬! ÐœÐžÐ˜!.. ÐžÐ“ÐžÐÐ•Ðš ÐŸÐ•Ð¡ÐÐ¯ ÐŸÐ Ðž Â«ÐšÐÐ¢Ð®Ð¨Ð£Â» Ð“Ð”Ð• Ð– Ð’Ð«, Ð“Ð”Ð• Ð– Ð’Ð«, ÐžÐ§Ð˜ ÐšÐÐ Ð˜Ð•? ÐšÐ£Ð”Ð Ð‘ ÐÐ˜ Ð¨Ð•Ð›, ÐÐ˜ Ð•Ð¥ÐÐ› Ð¢Ð«... Ð”Ðž Ð¡Ð’Ð˜Ð”ÐÐÐ¬Ð¯, Ð“ÐžÐ ÐžÐ”Ð Ð˜ Ð¥ÐÐ¢Ð«... Ð“Ð”Ð• ÐžÐ Ð•Ð› Ð ÐÐ¡ÐšÐ˜ÐÐ£Ð› ÐšÐ Ð«Ð›Ð¬Ð¯ Ð’ ÐŸÐ Ð˜Ð¤Ð ÐžÐÐ¢ÐžÐ’ÐžÐœ Ð›Ð•Ð¡Ð£ ÐÐÐ¨ Ð“ÐžÐ¡Ð¢ ÐŸÐ ÐžÐ©ÐÐÐ˜Ð• ÐŸÐ•Ð¡ÐÐ¯ Ðž ÐœÐÐ¨Ð•ÐÐ¬ÐšÐ• ÐŸÐÐ Ð¢Ð˜Ð—ÐÐÐ¡ÐšÐÐ¯ Ð‘ÐžÐ ÐžÐ”Ð Ð¢Ð Ð˜ Ð¢ÐÐÐšÐ˜Ð¡Ð¢Ð ÐÐÐ¡ ÐÐ• Ð¢Ð ÐžÐ“ÐÐ™! Ð¯ ÐÐ ÐŸÐžÐ”Ð’Ð˜Ð“ Ð¢Ð•Ð‘Ð¯ ÐŸÐ ÐžÐ’ÐžÐ–ÐÐ›Ð ÐŸÐ•Ð¡ÐÐ¯ ÐœÐžÐ›ÐžÐ”Ð«Ð¥ Ð‘ÐžÐ™Ð¦ÐžÐ’ Ð”Ð’Ð Ð”Ð Ð£Ð“Ð ÐÐ•Ð—Ð Ð˜ÐœÐÐ¯ Ð ÐÐÐ Ð—ÐžÐ›ÐžÐ¢Ð˜Ð¡Ð¢Ð«Ð™ Ð¥ÐžÐ¥ÐžÐ›ÐžÐš Ð ÐžÐ¡Ð¡Ð˜Ð¯ ÐœÐžÐ¯ ÐœÐžÐ¡ÐšÐ’Ð ÐŸÐ•Ð¡ÐÐ¯ Ðž Ð’Ð˜ÐÐ¢ÐžÐ’ÐšÐ• ÐšÐžÐ¢Ð•Ð›ÐžÐš Ð¡Ð›Ð£Ð¨ÐÐ®Ð¢ ÐžÐ¢Ð Ð¯Ð”Ð« ÐŸÐ•Ð¡ÐÐ® Ð¤Ð ÐžÐÐ¢ÐžÐ’Ð£Ð® Ð”Ð’Ð Ð¢ÐžÐ’ÐÐ Ð˜Ð©Ð ÐÐ¥, Â«ÐÐ¡Â», Ð•Ð©Ð• Â«ÐÐ¡Â»! Ð¡ÐŸÐžÐ™ ÐÐÐœ, Ð“ÐÐ›Ð¯... Ð’ Ð‘Ð•Ð›Ð«Ð¥ ÐŸÐ ÐžÐ¡Ð¢ÐžÐ ÐÐ¥ ÐœÐžÐ¯ Ð§Ð•Ð ÐÐžÐžÐšÐ Ð•Ð¥ÐÐ› Ð¯ Ð˜Ð— Ð‘Ð•Ð Ð›Ð˜ÐÐ Ð Ð£Ð¡Ð¡ÐšÐÐ¯ Ð”Ð£Ð¨Ð Ð”ÐžÐ ÐžÐ“Ð˜ ÐšÐÐ ÐœÐÐÐÐÐ¯ ÐÐ Ð¢Ð˜Ð›Ð›Ð•Ð Ð˜Ð¯ Ð’ Ð§ÐÐ¡, ÐšÐžÐ“Ð”Ð ÐŸÐžÐ¥ÐžÐ”ÐÐ«Ð™ Ð£Ð–Ð˜Ð Ð¡Ð’ÐÐ Ð˜Ð¨Ð¬... ÐœÐÐ¥ÐžÐ ÐžÐ§ÐšÐ ÐŸÐ•Ð¡ÐÐ¯ Ðž Ð¢ÐÐ§ÐÐÐšÐ• ÐŸÐ•Ð¡ÐÐ¯ Ðž Ð¤ÐžÐÐÐ Ð˜ÐšÐÐ¥ ÐšÐžÐ Ð Ð•Ð¡ÐŸÐžÐÐ”Ð•ÐÐ¢Ð¡ÐšÐÐ¯ Ð—ÐÐ¡Ð¢ÐžÐ›Ð¬ÐÐÐ¯ ÐšÐÐ—ÐÐšÐ˜ Ð’ Ð‘Ð•Ð Ð›Ð˜ÐÐ• Ð’Ð¡Ð• Ð ÐÐ’ÐÐž ÐŸÐžÐ” ÐšÐ›Ð•ÐÐÐœÐ˜ Ð¨Ð£ÐœÐ•Ð› Ð¡Ð£Ð ÐžÐ’Ðž Ð‘Ð Ð¯ÐÐ¡ÐšÐ˜Ð™ Ð›Ð•Ð¡ ÐŸÐžÐ™, Ð˜Ð“Ð ÐÐ™, Ð“ÐÐ ÐœÐžÐ¨ÐšÐ Ð ÐžÐ¡Ð¢ÐžÐ’-Ð“ÐžÐ ÐžÐ” Ð’ Ð—Ð•ÐœÐ›Ð¯ÐÐšÐ• ÐŸÐ•Ð¡ÐÐ¯ Ð—ÐÐ©Ð˜Ð¢ÐÐ˜ÐšÐžÐ’ ÐœÐžÐ¡ÐšÐ’Ð« ÐŸÐ•Ð¡ÐÐ¯ Ð¡ÐœÐ•Ð›Ð«Ð¥ Ð•Ð¡Ð›Ð˜ Ð‘Ð£Ð”Ð•Ð¨Ð¬ Ð ÐÐÐ•Ð, ÐœÐ˜Ð›Ð«Ð™, ÐÐ Ð’ÐžÐ™ÐÐ•... Ð¡ÐžÐ›ÐžÐ’Ð¬Ð˜ Ð¡Ð•Ð Ð”Ð¦Ð• Ð¢ÐÐÐšÐ˜Ð¡Ð¢Ð ÐÐ Ð¡ÐžÐ›ÐÐ•Ð§ÐÐžÐ™ ÐŸÐžÐ›Ð¯ÐÐžÐ§ÐšÐ• Ð”ÐÐ’ÐÐž ÐœÐ« Ð”ÐžÐœÐ ÐÐ• Ð‘Ð«Ð›Ð˜ ÐÐ˜Ð§Ð•Ð“Ðž ÐÐ• Ð“ÐžÐ’ÐžÐ Ð˜Ð›Ð... ÐŸÐ•Ð Ð•Ð›Ð•Ð¢ÐÐ«Ð• ÐŸÐ¢Ð˜Ð¦Ð« ÐœÐ•Ð”Ð¡Ð•Ð¡Ð¢Ð Ð ÐÐÐ®Ð¢Ð Ð”ÐÐ’ÐÐ™ Ð—ÐÐšÐ£Ð Ð˜Ðœ Ð’Ð•Ð§Ð•Ð ÐÐ Ð Ð•Ð™Ð”Ð• Ð¡ÐœÐ£Ð“Ð›Ð¯ÐÐšÐ ÐšÐ£Ð¡Ð¢ Ð ÐÐšÐ˜Ð¢ÐžÐ’Ð«Ð™ Ilya Kudriashov's GHQ RU Not only that but the German peroid songs are mostly the same ones that were so highly touted in the gramaphone music packs that came out soon after SHIII v 1.0 was released.

07-28-05, 08:56 AM	#5
Shadow9216 Frogman Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 296 Downloads: 91 Uploads: 0	Nice list, did I miss Polushka Pole on the list?

07-28-05, 12:34 PM	#9
U-1966 Seaman Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 34 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	U-Boat Crews didn't even listen to that Nazi Stuff or Military Marches on board anyway. They listened to the popular German, French, and English Tunes of the Day.. Terrapin's site has a treasure trove of 1930s and 1940s music.

07-28-05, 02:24 PM	#12
Seaboy Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Its just Tripod. No doubt it does mainly cater to neo-nazi types - cause let's face it, most people in the world are not history buffs and could care less about any music from WWII Germany, or France for that matter. The America I grew up in once believed (still does supposedly) that people should be allowed to believe anything, read anything, and display anything that they want (with in reason). The idea was also that TRUTH has nothing to fear from facts or ideas of any type. So growing up those who considered themselves well read were expected to have read Mein Kampf, along with anything else available from Nazi Germany. Also that would include Communist dogmas and about anything else under the sun. I know many Americans view the fact the Germany today does not allow Nazi emblems in such things as games to be the same thing as tyrany - MIND CONTROL - no different than something Hitler might create. If the Germans can't handle Nazi dogma today, it would either mean that the said dogma was somehow true and must thus be hidden lest it overwhelm the German people, or it would mean that the Nazi dogma is BS, but that the German populous lacks common sense and are like children who must be led around by the nose. I am part Native American - a term I hate because it is politically correct - and thus I refer to myself as an 'INJUN'. Nothing gives dogmas or words more power than FEAR of them. Like '****'. Yeah, I can use that term since in the school I attended of 700 white boys I was often called ****. Its how I learned to fight. But you European pussy-whips seem never to understand that you can't legislate common sense. Your people will only learn to see through crapy dogma if they are allowed to learn it and get past it. Do you remember getting picked on by other boys in your neighborhood? Would your mother coming out to PROTECT you have made things BETTER? Or worse? You in Europe are always wanting governments that are big MAMAs. Hence your population never grows up. The European mama-governments need to allow the Germans the freedoms to openly connect with their Nazi past. Only in this way will those emblems lose their old power. Anything made 'naughty' continues both to retain its power and to gain in power. I am not saying Germany should allow people to form the old Nazi party, though perhaps even that would be a good idea. I recall how when I was a kid (before 3 rifles took down JFK in Dallas) an American could verbally threaten the President's life, or threaten all kinds of murder, but the police would just say, until the guys actually does something we can't do a thing. A lot of people made threats. But few ever did anything. Most people like that blew off steam and cooled off. And their big mouths alerted people to their twisted thinking and this has value too. Now, such nuts mainly remain QUIET, and you don't see them until they show up with a gun. Its too bad Europe (and now America) can't trust their people to be free. If people are not trusted, they will never become trustworthy.

07-28-05, 03:21 PM	#13
macstu23 Soundman Join Date: May 2003 Location: Scotland Posts: 143 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	I agree with that actually. Right on. The Nazis existed, as did their symbolism, no denying it. The more we understand about why it happened, then the better prepared we are to prevent it from ever happening again, God forbid. Dont let fear erode democracy. Though I do object to being called a pussy whip. So too would my Grandad who fought the Nazis in Africa, Italy, and Normandy before malaria finally killed him in '53. Still, Native American Injuns are cool, so I'll let you off. :P Out of interest, a phrase I learned on a trip across Canada was 'Aboriginal American'. Is that considered better or worse than 'Native'?

07-28-05, 09:34 PM	#15
Capn Tucker Bosun Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: DB56 Posts: 66 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Some of what Seaboy said is true. Trying to cover up unpleasant history and pretend it never happened will only ensure that it DOES happen again, as in the old saying "He who forgets history is doomed to repeat it". The European ostrich needs to get its head out of the sand. That said, I think the biggest factor in all this is that the Russians have vowed to intervene if Nazism is "revived" in Germany. Public display of the Nazi paraphernalia during the Cold War could concieveably have been justification for the Soviets to invade. Nowadays though, with the Wall gone and the Warsaw Pact a fading memory, that probably isn't too likely. And before the flames begin, I'm not advocating the public display of said items. But this sickening political correctness we now have desperately needs to be put to bed...