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Old 12-30-24, 07:15 AM   #1
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Default Problem with FOTRS - TDC not working

Hey,

I've been using SH4 for over a decade. I used FOTRS before and it was fine. However this time around, when you go to the TDC,
you can't move any of the dials. What's more, the little triangle button for Stadimeter etc to send the data to the TDC on left, is missing. This looks like a bug. I just had to abandon my new campaign cause of this.

Any help please?

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Old 12-30-24, 08:31 AM   #2
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Must - have - more - data...


Seriously though, we do. Run JSGME, and in the middle of the window is a blue "Tasks..." link. Click on that and choose the bottom item "Export activated mods list to >" and then click either "Clipboard" to Ctrl-V paste it into your next post, or use "Text file" to copy and paste the info later. It will show the path to your game, as well as the mods you are running. That info is needed to diagnose your issue. Also, do you have Manual Targeting selected in the Options screen? Remember, there are Options for both Single Mission play, as well as Career play. The career option are found when you are in the onshore Captain's Office, and click on the wooden radio console to the left. Let us know!
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Must - have - more - data...


Seriously though, we do. Run JSGME, and in the middle of the window is a blue "Tasks..." link. Click on that and choose the bottom item "Export activated mods list to >" and then click either "Clipboard" to Ctrl-V paste it into your next post, or use "Text file" to copy and paste the info later. It will show the path to your game, as well as the mods you are running. That info is needed to diagnose your issue. Also, do you have Manual Targeting selected in the Options screen? Remember, there are Options for both Single Mission play, as well as Career play. The career option are found when you are in the onshore Captain's Office, and click on the wooden radio console to the left. Let us know!
Here you go:

Generic Mod Enabler - v2.6.0.157
[H:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\Silent Hunters Wolves of the Pacific\MODS]

FalloftheRisingSun_Ultimate_v1.46
BATTLEFLAGS_SHIP_SUNK_COUNT (select_folder)
Bigger Better Protractors
Dark Recognitionmanual
GreenLamp
WEBSTER's Better Air Patrols for v1.4 and v1.5
BATTLEFLAGS_GATO_CLASS (select_folder)
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Old 12-31-24, 11:32 AM   #4
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Here you go:

Generic Mod Enabler - v2.6.0.157
[H:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\Silent Hunters Wolves of the Pacific\MODS]

FalloftheRisingSun_Ultimate_v1.46
BATTLEFLAGS_SHIP_SUNK_COUNT (select_folder) - Part of FI-OQ mod?
Bigger Better Protractors - messes with menu_1024_768.ini
Dark Recognitionmanual - messes with menu_1024_768.ini
GreenLamp - messes with menu_1024_768.ini and other aspects
WEBSTER's Better Air Patrols for v1.4 and v1.5 - Not really necessary in FotRSU
BATTLEFLAGS_GATO_CLASS (select_folder) - Part of FI-OQ mod?
Fall of the Rising Sun Ultimate is different from most mods in many aspects, but even if it wasn't, the mods marked in "orange" change things in FotRSU especially that would disable several functions, such as radar and sonar functionality, as well as alter what some of the menu buttons do for other aspects of the game. You would have to properly "merge" the works into the proper files to fully function within FotRSU without impacting those parts that are overwritten. As for the other two mods marked in "wheat", those are for vickers03's Fleetboat Interiors - Officer's Quarters mod, and as such, just put folders for use in the game with that mod activated on top of FotRSU. There is a AddInModzPak_18.7z download available that has mods compatible with FotRSU, though none add the larger protractor or alter the menu buttons, nor change the cover of the RecMan. You would have to manage to do that yourself by comparing the various files in the mods you want, with the corresponding section in the same FotRSU files. But, the AddInModzPak does have a compatibility file for FI-OQ that makes that v1.7 version of vickers03's mod 100% compatible with FotRSUv1.8 - for what that's worth to you... You could also try jimimadrid's jimimadrid HUD to help with what you are after. We're still working on the next release of FotRSU, and have not had time to look closely at it yet, but others are using it with FotRSU.
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Fall of the Rising Sun Ultimate is different from most mods in many aspects, but even if it wasn't, the mods marked in "orange" change things in FotRSU especially that would disable several functions, such as radar and sonar functionality, as well as alter what some of the menu buttons do for other aspects of the game. You would have to properly "merge" the works into the proper files to fully function within FotRSU without impacting those parts that are overwritten. As for the other two mods marked in "wheat", those are for vickers03's Fleetboat Interiors - Officer's Quarters mod, and as such, just put folders for use in the game with that mod activated on top of FotRSU. There is a AddInModzPak_18.7z download available that has mods compatible with FotRSU, though none add the larger protractor or alter the menu buttons, nor change the cover of the RecMan. You would have to manage to do that yourself by comparing the various files in the mods you want, with the corresponding section in the same FotRSU files. But, the AddInModzPak does have a compatibility file for FI-OQ that makes that v1.7 version of vickers03's mod 100% compatible with FotRSUv1.8 - for what that's worth to you... You could also try jimimadrid's jimimadrid HUD to help with what you are after. We're still working on the next release of FotRSU, and have not had time to look closely at it yet, but others are using it with FotRSU.
Thanks for getting back to quick.

I removed all other mods except FOTRS, and still the problem remains. I loaded my campaign, and the problem remains. So I started a War Patrol in a GAR thinking it might be because I changed the mod load out. The problem remained,

Heres images of the TDC for Range, AOB and Speed showing the little triangle to send data to TDC is missing, and none of the controls can be manipulated other than switching between the 3 dials.

https://imgur.com/5Eg0nZO

https://imgur.com/pF1YImj

https://imgur.com/9lARLGc

Thanks.
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Old 01-01-25, 08:00 AM   #6
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If you do not have a "target", none of the dials will move. If you are in Manual-targeting mode, you do not get the triangle. If you are in a Single Mission (or Sub School, Multi-Mission, War Patrol), you use the Main Menu's "Options"



... and "Gameplay Settings" choice.



... to clear the "Manual targeting system" box in the lower-left column


If you are in a career, when you are in the Captain's Office while at home port, use the radio console to the left of the screen as in:



... to access the "Options" menu



... and then "Gameplay Settings" to clear that same menu choice for Manual-Targeting. That will get the green (orange or red) triangle back. Then, when you "lock" onto a target, or get the triangle near a ship and press the PTT button (that currently "white" button at the bottom right of the Position Keeper box), the dials will move for you. When lit "white", as below, the PTT is off. When lit "red", it is on. The "Lock" light (on the lower-right torpedo box) lights when you are "locked" on a target. Both Manual and Auto targeting are the same in that regard.




If instead, you are looking to "manually input" targeting data with the "Manual targeting system" enabled, then you use the TDC dial on the right-hand side of the screen to input range, AOB and speed, and when "updated" will move the dials on the left. Or you can use Nisgeis's 3D TDC and Radar Range Unit for the Gato and Balao in the Stock game (which is really cool), but a bit complex. However, you will not see a triangle in Manual mode...



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