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Old 11-15-23, 02:48 PM   #1
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Default Ships... Evolution

I decided to compare ships from different versions of the game. Let's start with Hog Islander...






As you can see, the overall dimensions are approximately the same. But if you look at the details (masts, anchor, inter-deck spaces etc.), then the discrepancy in proportions and sizes is very striking.

The SH4 ship even has a strange hull shape (the delirium of a drunken programmer).
Rating: There's nothing to rate here - it's trash. Throw it away and forget it.

The SH5 ship is more similar, but has the same problem with sizes and proportions.
Rating: 2.5 stars.

There's not much to say about the last ship. This is almost the standard of what a game ship should look like.
Rating: 9 stars.

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Old 11-15-23, 03:20 PM   #2
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I agree with your rating though what's authentic then? Sh3?
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Old 11-15-23, 03:44 PM   #3
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I agree with your rating though what's authentic then? Sh3?
authentic=correct+real+accurate+created according to the general plans.

Soon it will appear in sh3.
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Old 11-15-23, 04:04 PM   #4
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Thank you! Looking forward to it!
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Old 11-15-23, 04:24 PM   #5
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You should also make the comparison between the Liberty ships....
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Old 11-15-23, 05:07 PM   #6
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You should also make the comparison between the Liberty ships....
Good idea. I'll think about it... tomorrow...
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Old 11-16-23, 02:44 PM   #7
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I think the Liberty ship from CCOM was a bit more realistic than in other SH3 mods.

The SH5 version is better but still looks ugly and with a strange hull shape...
The version you adapted for SH3 is far better, but there are some unhistorical details, and the hull shape is still incorrect in the stern section.


This one is even better, but doesn"t have any textures yet... More in PMs if you want.


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Good idea. I'll think about it... tomorrow...

Tomorrow = never...
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Old 11-17-23, 09:46 AM   #9
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authentic=correct+real+accurate+created according to the general plans.
It is not real in real life I made list merchant ships from 1953 year and can say, that in many ships not one photo f.e. Draw it is not science fantasy. Many photo alder ship poor quality. And when any start made models ships, so can made near reality only.

"Kollbryn"

"A. P. Moller"

It is single foto for this ships. Other not. Can any made autentic model this ships? No. So not need go for authentic model. And for many modern merchant ships was many modernisation and real pictures was other.
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Old 11-17-23, 10:36 AM   #10
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Скажу по-русски: если мне не веришь, то зарегься на моём сайте (он в профиле) и я тебе дам доступ к закрытому разделу с корабликами. Сам посмотришь и убедишься, что редко когда бывает более 2 одинаковых судов. Во время 2 мировой войны , и много десятков лет после, формально однотипные суда на самом деле были только похожими судами единичной постройки. Они отличались и тоннажом, и размерениями и силовой установкой и скоростью и внешним видом.
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Alex.B
Скажу по-русски: если мне не веришь, то зарегься на моём сайте (он в профиле) и я тебе дам доступ к закрытому разделу с корабликами. Сам посмотришь и убедишься, что редко когда бывает более 2 одинаковых судов. Во время 2 мировой войны , и много десятков лет после, формально однотипные суда на самом деле были только похожими судами единичной постройки. Они отличались и тоннажом, и размерениями и силовой установкой и скоростью и внешним видом.

Салют!
Америки ты не открыл. Я только не понял, что ты хотел сказать. Что я сделал не на 100% точную копию? Открою маленькую тайну. Никто не сделает. Потому что для этого надо перелопатить тонну чертежей, от которых порой и следа не осталось. Да и мало кто будет этим заморачиваться.
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