Need a little help identifying a coat

Rhodes · 03-02-22, 11:00 AM

A little or a big help, all is welcome.

I am posting here since it is easier to ask here first and if this thread should be in another part of the forum, I beg the moderators if they change to the correct location.

Also, posting here, is also easier for me, even if I am looking for more appropriate forums, that I beginning to look.

Bom, what I need is this: Identifying this British army coat, that we think is from 1850's and on (or not...).

Our museum have it by means of a donation, but no information was given about the coat.

Pics:

Royal Fusiliers 3rd London? Or Royal Marines? I think the rank is lieutenant do to the crown and that rose (I think that is call like that).

And do you know any forum or web place I can also ask?

Thank you.

Aktungbby · 03-02-22, 01:31 PM

This is a British 19th Century, Full General Rank Tunic, Pattern 1856-1868: note similar yellow button trim, trim twisted shoulder epaulets, and 'rounded' (not square) collar tips. Rear view is also very similar:

All your excessive cuff embroidery escapes me though but it sure looks like a 'dress' uniform for soirées: note also: a very similar collar trim insignia:

BOTTOM LINE: if in doubt and somebody's wearing that getup; just stand at attention &

!!!

DAMN QUICK!! https://stewartsmilitaryantiques.com...30.archive.htm Particularly glad to help, as my daughter directs a museum on donations incl. my interior paint jobs; and truck driving to get new display cabinets as needed! EDIT per Rockstar's post:

Quote:

On each side of the collar are thickly embroidered star and crown, designating the rank of a full General. On the shoulders are two narrow, twisted gold wire cords secured by two small General's pattern buttons. The beautifully made gilt finished buttons display the backmark of Jennens & Co. London, without the Prince of Wales Plume added in1860 by that firm. I was able to check the backs of the closure buttons,they all match, however the cuff and skirt buttons are sewn so closely to the material I can't get a good view of the reverse. you're 'right on the button as usual Rockstar!

Rockstar · 03-02-22, 01:33 PM

If it is from the suggested time period there may be a “makers mark” on the back of the buttons. You might from there see who they made them for. Outside of that I don’t have a clue.

Nice find though.

Eichhörnchen · 03-02-22, 02:14 PM

I think maybe you should be looking for a Grenadiers regiment

ET2SN · 03-02-22, 02:43 PM

You could have posted this in the Who / What / Where Game thread and made it more sporting.

Is there any personal ID or a name tag hiding in the pockets?

Jimbuna · 03-02-22, 02:57 PM

I agree with Aktung

Jeff-Groves · 03-02-22, 03:34 PM

I'd have to say Aktung is probably on the money.
Although he's my favorite Cunning Linguist? He and his family have EXTENSIVE back grounds in stuff like this.
And I expect a phone call very soon from him!

Aktungbby · 03-02-22, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna

I agree with Aktung

^ U should! I wear the same thing on formal Civil War occasions such as our Annual ball for Civilwar reenacting. C & D Jarnigan made all my gear: both field

and dress

and completely authentic in every detail down to the coattail pockets etc. Now (after 4 decades) if I lose 50 Lbs I could wear them again!

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Rhodes Silent Hunter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Figueira da Foz, Portugal Posts: 4,517 Downloads: 110 Uploads: 0	Need a little help identifying a coat A little or a big help, all is welcome. I am posting here since it is easier to ask here first and if this thread should be in another part of the forum, I beg the moderators if they change to the correct location. Also, posting here, is also easier for me, even if I am looking for more appropriate forums, that I beginning to look. Bom, what I need is this: Identifying this British army coat, that we think is from 1850's and on (or not...). Our museum have it by means of a donation, but no information was given about the coat. Pics: Royal Fusiliers 3rd London? Or Royal Marines? I think the rank is lieutenant do to the crown and that rose (I think that is call like that). And do you know any forum or web place I can also ask? Thank you. __________________ http://www.flickr.com/photos/16416646@N05/

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Eichhörnchen Starte das Auto Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: The Fens Posts: 17,399 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	I think maybe you should be looking for a Grenadiers regiment __________________

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Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,552 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	I agree with Aktung __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

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Rockstar In the Brig Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Zendia Bar & Grill Posts: 12,614 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	If it is from the suggested time period there may be a “makers mark” on the back of the buttons. You might from there see who they made them for. Outside of that I don’t have a clue. Nice find though.

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ET2SN Ocean Warrior Join Date: Oct 2017 Posts: 2,652 Downloads: 60 Uploads: 0	You could have posted this in the Who / What / Where Game thread and made it more sporting. Is there any personal ID or a name tag hiding in the pockets?

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Jeff-Groves GLOBAL MODDING TERRORIST Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 5,652 Downloads: 137 Uploads: 0	I'd have to say Aktung is probably on the money. Although he's my favorite Cunning Linguist? He and his family have EXTENSIVE back grounds in stuff like this. And I expect a phone call very soon from him!