Perry class Frigate vs Tu-22 Backfire...what's the trick?

Halcyon · 01-31-22, 03:28 PM

I'm playing the N. Atlantic convoy vanilla mission, and about 20-30 minutes in a Tu-22 Backfire appears from the NE and fires all its missiles at me.
I've tried every strategy I know to avoid the missiles, but no matter what I do my ship always gets hit at least once.

I've tried going completely EMCON and flank speed perpendicular to get out of the missile's seeker path while pumping chaff, but the missiles still find me.

I then tried using my helo's radar to pick up the inbound missiles and using my own SM-2 missiles to shoot them down with the CIWS as backup, but every SM-2 misses and the CIWS misses as well.

I've tried turning away from the missiles to present a smaller target, plus give my CIWS the best chance at hitting them head on while pumping chaff out on both sides of the ship, but at least 1 missile always hits me.

What is the secret to avoiding Backfire missiles?

Stewy1 · 02-01-22, 02:30 AM

Not sure I can help without giving facetious answers (don't be in range, go with a dedicated AAW platform or two, ride along with a CVBG etc.)

I believe the RA Perry's Standard Missile was made to be less a of 'god-mode' weapon, so I've gotten used to it. I thought the stock SM was better performing?

It does change tactics - one ASM, torpedo or air attack and the Perry's toast. It's annoying too, because even if it's not a fatal shot, the missile launcher will most probably be knocked out in the first hit, and then you just have to wait for the coup de grace...

Without being silly, does using one of the freighters as a shield work? It might absorb a missile or two and you can then shoot down the Backfire?

It's interesting for a discussion about tactics

Stew

Halcyon · 02-01-22, 04:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stewy1

Not sure I can help without giving facetious answers (don't be in range, go with a dedicated AAW platform or two, ride along with a CVBG etc.)

I believe the RA Perry's Standard Missile was made to be less a of 'god-mode' weapon, so I've gotten used to it. I thought the stock SM was better performing?

It does change tactics - one ASM, torpedo or air attack and the Perry's toast. It's annoying too, because even if it's not a fatal shot, the missile launcher will most probably be knocked out in the first hit, and then you just have to wait for the coup de grace...

Without being silly, does using one of the freighters as a shield work? It might absorb a missile or two and you can then shoot down the Backfire?

It's interesting for a discussion about tactics

Stew

The mission is to protect the freighters in the convoy, not use them as shields to survive lol.

There are no other ships in the mission. Just my Perry and 4 cargo ships I have to defend from subs and air threats.
The Backfire fires outside of my 25nm fire control radar range, so I can only wait for the missiles to start showing up on my own air search radar before doing something about it.

Alcon2009 · 02-01-22, 11:23 AM

What Kind of missiles does that Tu-22 use?
They may be too buffed (i guess) ??

Edit: Somehow i avoided the missiles, but a torpedo from a Kilo killed me, sorry im so noob at FFG

Halcyon · 02-01-22, 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alcon2009

What Kind of missiles does that Tu-22 use?
They may be too buffed (i guess) ??

Edit: Somehow i avoided the missiles, but a torpedo from a Kilo killed me, sorry im so noob at FFG

AS-4 Kitchen ASW

Alcon2009 · 02-01-22, 02:02 PM

I don't know what you should try for avoiding it, but all i did was go to south when i received the message, once i detected the target i shooted a SM-2, then chaff countermeasures and auto ciws, did avoid it.

01-31-22, 03:28 PM	#1
Halcyon Helmsman Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: West Coast, USA Posts: 106 Downloads: 105 Uploads: 3	Perry class Frigate vs Tu-22 Backfire...what's the trick? I'm playing the N. Atlantic convoy vanilla mission, and about 20-30 minutes in a Tu-22 Backfire appears from the NE and fires all its missiles at me. I've tried every strategy I know to avoid the missiles, but no matter what I do my ship always gets hit at least once. I've tried going completely EMCON and flank speed perpendicular to get out of the missile's seeker path while pumping chaff, but the missiles still find me. I then tried using my helo's radar to pick up the inbound missiles and using my own SM-2 missiles to shoot them down with the CIWS as backup, but every SM-2 misses and the CIWS misses as well. I've tried turning away from the missiles to present a smaller target, plus give my CIWS the best chance at hitting them head on while pumping chaff out on both sides of the ship, but at least 1 missile always hits me. What is the secret to avoiding Backfire missiles?

02-01-22, 02:30 AM	#2
Stewy1 Girt by Sea Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Red Route 1 Posts: 391 Downloads: 176 Uploads: 40	Not sure I can help without giving facetious answers (don't be in range, go with a dedicated AAW platform or two, ride along with a CVBG etc.) I believe the RA Perry's Standard Missile was made to be less a of 'god-mode' weapon, so I've gotten used to it. I thought the stock SM was better performing? It does change tactics - one ASM, torpedo or air attack and the Perry's toast. It's annoying too, because even if it's not a fatal shot, the missile launcher will most probably be knocked out in the first hit, and then you just have to wait for the coup de grace... Without being silly, does using one of the freighters as a shield work? It might absorb a missile or two and you can then shoot down the Backfire? It's interesting for a discussion about tactics Stew __________________ "This officer has used my ship as his den of iniquity and my wardroom to carry him from bar to bar."

02-01-22, 11:23 AM	#4
Alcon2009 Bosun Join Date: Apr 2021 Location: Colombia Posts: 62 Downloads: 122 Uploads: 1	What Kind of missiles does that Tu-22 use? They may be too buffed (i guess) ?? Edit: Somehow i avoided the missiles, but a torpedo from a Kilo killed me, sorry im so noob at FFG Last edited by Alcon2009; 02-01-22 at 12:39 PM.

02-01-22, 02:02 PM	#6
Alcon2009 Bosun Join Date: Apr 2021 Location: Colombia Posts: 62 Downloads: 122 Uploads: 1	I don't know what you should try for avoiding it, but all i did was go to south when i received the message, once i detected the target i shooted a SM-2, then chaff countermeasures and auto ciws, did avoid it.