Hitler really was a socialist

Rockstar · 07-13-21, 05:59 PM

Skybird · 07-13-21, 06:40 PM

That video lasts over four hours. No chance I will go through that. No chance I can imagine anyone here will.

But I say since years and years that the Nazis - were socialists. It inthe party name, and its in their implementation of economics and monetarian policies, and their understanding of communal order and the purpose of the state. Hayek knew they were socialists. von Mises knew they were socialists. And this author, again Austrian school of economics, argued in favour of it, too.

https://mises.org/library/why-nazism...m-totalitarian

And they are right. They are spot on. To me it is one of the biggest triumphs that political propaganda has ever managed to acchieve in all human history that the Sovjest could convince the world afterwards that there was a natural antagonistic rivalry between them (the Reds) and the Brownies, between the Left and the Right, and that the one - the right - was evil and that the left - the Sovjet - stood for the good.

They both are twin brothers, Socialism and Nazism. They are offsprings of the same thinking and mental attitude. Which might explain why left dictatorships and right dictatorships so often, almost always, show the same brutal face of tyranny, barbary, torture, and totalitarian dictatorship to force people under their yoke. What is the same, does the same, for the same motives, and the same results.

Hitler explained in an adress to the party in February either 1944 or 1945 (I always mistake the year) that to him there were no principle differences between Nationalsocialism and Bolshewism. Ideological differences were not what had brought Stalin and Hitler to go after each other's throat. Not at all.

I have always strictly refused to chose between Communsits and Nazis, the Lefties and the Rights, and to see the one as bad and evil and the other as good and the salvation, and to support the one and condemn the other. To me they are both two sons from the same family, the one worse than the other. There is nothing reasonable to choose between them, because it is a choice between two lethal poisons, a choice between been Cyanide and Strychnin. The one is not one inch better than the other. Both kill.

I therefore dispise both the left and the right. And I applaude when they go after each other and crack their skulls open, instead going united after us libertarians. Because free people is the only one thing they both hate even more than their tyrannic ideological twin brother.

Catfish · 07-14-21, 02:06 AM

Let's say I strongly disagree with the above.

Rockstar · 07-14-21, 08:00 AM

I love the comments:

“Hitler can’t be a socialist because I’m a socialist and Hitler was bad.”

“You can look up Nazi economy on WIKIPEDIA”. Comedy gold!!

Wikipedia, seems to be the favorite go to source for all the liberal socialist types. Those koolaide drinkers worship it as their oracle of truth, that and MSNBC and Russiagate conspiracies.

Rockstar · 07-14-21, 09:05 AM

Warning to all you bleeding heart socialists and liberals Wikipedia wasn’t around when the author wrote this book. He actually lived it.

The Vampire Economy. Doing Business Under Fascisim

https://www.amazon.com/Vampire-Econo.../dp/B0052YQ1CK

Rockstar · 07-14-21, 09:53 AM

Nice thing about the above videos is he indexes them by topic. So you can jump to a particular subject of interest. Seems to me socialists, liberals, Democrats are all taking ideas straight from Hitlers Nazi playbook.

AND get this, he lists well over 100 sources of his research. Sadly the socialist liberal oracle of truth Wikipedia isn’t included.

Onkel Neal · 07-15-21, 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Catfish

Catfish · 07-15-21, 09:04 AM

Ok this was not a good post, i meant those usual suspects always popping up when this subject appears once more, and i cannot even say "no offense meant" because i strongly disagree with any such opinion.

But this does not represent Subsim, members in general or this website

.

edit: i changed it. If you insist to let the original be there i will change it back.

Onkel Neal · 07-15-21, 09:44 AM

Danke!

It makes my head ache when someone associates "SUBSIM" with any particular person's opinion. I appreciate your understanding.

We all read stuff that we find preposterous, here and elsewhere on the web. SUBSIM does not have the time, energy or moral authority to regulate speech, except in the most egregious cases.

Never underestimated the power of ignore.

07-13-21, 05:59 PM	#1
Rockstar Rear Admiral Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Zendia Bar & Grill Posts: 12,007 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Hitler really was a socialist __________________ Guardian of the honey and nuts Let's assume I'm right, it'll save time.

07-13-21, 06:40 PM	#2
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,736 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	That video lasts over four hours. No chance I will go through that. No chance I can imagine anyone here will. But I say since years and years that the Nazis - were socialists. It inthe party name, and its in their implementation of economics and monetarian policies, and their understanding of communal order and the purpose of the state. Hayek knew they were socialists. von Mises knew they were socialists. And this author, again Austrian school of economics, argued in favour of it, too. https://mises.org/library/why-nazism...m-totalitarian And they are right. They are spot on. To me it is one of the biggest triumphs that political propaganda has ever managed to acchieve in all human history that the Sovjest could convince the world afterwards that there was a natural antagonistic rivalry between them (the Reds) and the Brownies, between the Left and the Right, and that the one - the right - was evil and that the left - the Sovjet - stood for the good. They both are twin brothers, Socialism and Nazism. They are offsprings of the same thinking and mental attitude. Which might explain why left dictatorships and right dictatorships so often, almost always, show the same brutal face of tyranny, barbary, torture, and totalitarian dictatorship to force people under their yoke. What is the same, does the same, for the same motives, and the same results. Hitler explained in an adress to the party in February either 1944 or 1945 (I always mistake the year) that to him there were no principle differences between Nationalsocialism and Bolshewism. Ideological differences were not what had brought Stalin and Hitler to go after each other's throat. Not at all. I have always strictly refused to chose between Communsits and Nazis, the Lefties and the Rights, and to see the one as bad and evil and the other as good and the salvation, and to support the one and condemn the other. To me they are both two sons from the same family, the one worse than the other. There is nothing reasonable to choose between them, because it is a choice between two lethal poisons, a choice between been Cyanide and Strychnin. The one is not one inch better than the other. Both kill. I therefore dispise both the left and the right. And I applaude when they go after each other and crack their skulls open, instead going united after us libertarians. Because free people is the only one thing they both hate even more than their tyrannic ideological twin brother. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

07-14-21, 02:06 AM	#3
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 16,932 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	Let's say I strongly disagree with the above. __________________ >^..^<)))>{ All generalizations are wrong. Last edited by Catfish; 07-15-21 at 09:14 AM.*

07-14-21, 08:00 AM	#4
Rockstar Rear Admiral Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Zendia Bar & Grill Posts: 12,007 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	I love the comments: “Hitler can’t be a socialist because I’m a socialist and Hitler was bad.” “You can look up Nazi economy on WIKIPEDIA”. Comedy gold!! Wikipedia, seems to be the favorite go to source for all the liberal socialist types. Those koolaide drinkers worship it as their oracle of truth, that and MSNBC and Russiagate conspiracies. __________________ Guardian of the honey and nuts Let's assume I'm right, it'll save time. Last edited by Rockstar; 07-14-21 at 08:32 AM.

07-14-21, 09:05 AM	#5
Rockstar Rear Admiral Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Zendia Bar & Grill Posts: 12,007 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Warning to all you bleeding heart socialists and liberals Wikipedia wasn’t around when the author wrote this book. He actually lived it. The Vampire Economy. Doing Business Under Fascisim https://www.amazon.com/Vampire-Econo.../dp/B0052YQ1CK __________________ Guardian of the honey and nuts Let's assume I'm right, it'll save time. Last edited by Rockstar; 07-14-21 at 09:49 AM.

07-14-21, 09:53 AM	#6
Rockstar Rear Admiral Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Zendia Bar & Grill Posts: 12,007 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Nice thing about the above videos is he indexes them by topic. So you can jump to a particular subject of interest. Seems to me socialists, liberals, Democrats are all taking ideas straight from Hitlers Nazi playbook. AND get this, he lists well over 100 sources of his research. Sadly the socialist liberal oracle of truth Wikipedia isn’t included. __________________ Guardian of the honey and nuts Let's assume I'm right, it'll save time. Last edited by Rockstar; 07-14-21 at 12:38 PM.

07-15-21, 09:04 AM	#8
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 16,932 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	Ok this was not a good post, i meant those usual suspects always popping up when this subject appears once more, and i cannot even say "no offense meant" because i strongly disagree with any such opinion. But this does not represent Subsim, members in general or this website . edit: i changed it. If you insist to let the original be there i will change it back. __________________ >^..^<)))>{ All generalizations are wrong. Last edited by Catfish; 07-15-21 at 09:13 AM.*

07-15-21, 09:44 AM	#9
Onkel Neal Born to Run Silent Join Date: Jan 1997 Location: Cougar Trap, Texas Posts: 21,301 Downloads: 534 Uploads: 224	Danke! It makes my head ache when someone associates "SUBSIM" with any particular person's opinion. I appreciate your understanding. We all read stuff that we find preposterous, here and elsewhere on the web. SUBSIM does not have the time, energy or moral authority to regulate speech, except in the most egregious cases. Never underestimated the power of ignore.