SH 3 Megamod Comparison

Macgregor the Hammer · 01-14-20, 09:33 AM

I'm looking for some input regarding the 3 most popular megamods available for SH3. From what I've read, the difference between GWX Gold, LSH and NYGM is mostly realism and AI. GWX Gold is oriented more toward eyecandy and LSH & NYGM is a tougher AI and realism. Am I wrong in my impressions? I know the only way to form an opinion is try them, but as it stands, I have GWX Gold in-place and in the middle of a campaign.

Thanks for any input.....

Macgregor out--------

propbeanie · 01-14-20, 11:28 AM

What you need is https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/ima...n_Confused.gif MultiSH3 from maikhaas' download page. I thought it was on SubSim, but could not find it...

Anyway, you need a separate copy of SH3 for each mod. I have a Steam copy of the game, so I used 7zip on the contents of my original "C:\Games \Steam \SteamApp \common \Silent Hunter 3" install folder, and then copied the file I had named "SH3.7z", to a new folder I created named "SH3_GWX" in that same "common" folder, such that I had a "Silent Hunter 3" folder, and an "SH3_GWX" folder. Unzip the 7z file inside the folder, and added that "new" SH3.exe it to the Steam start menu, and renamed it. Then copy and use MultiSH3 to create a "GWX" Save folder. Same thing with NYGM and LSH for those mods. What ever you want to name the "new" Game folder and Save folder, only the Save folder can only be composed of 3 letters and / or numbers... With that though, you can try each mod, and they won't get in each others' way, other than taking up hard drive space...

John Pancoast · 01-14-20, 03:53 PM

I've done a lot of campaigns in GWX and NYGM. Don't have the machine for LSH.
I haven't noticed much if any difference in AI between the two if one uses realistic tactics and mindset. If one doesn't any AI can be to easy or tough.
Personally, I think the AI in both is so-so, but a lot of that is due to game limitations. I also think GWX isn't just about eye candy; it's plenty "realistic" too and that includes the reasons for some of the eye candy.
NYGM does have some nice equipment/gameplay realism additions vs. GWX but that doesn't mean one couldn't add the same into GWX on their own.

There are various minor likes and dislikes I have in each, but nothing show stopping. Overall I prefer NYGM, but can't go wrong with either.

Both are great and those involved can't be thanked enough.

zeus · 01-15-20, 05:03 PM

Did you participate in wolfpacks with subs IA?
With whitch are megamod are there moré wolfpacks?

John Pancoast · 01-15-20, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by zeus

Did you participate in wolfpacks with subs IA?
With whitch are megamod are there moré wolfpacks?

Yes, participated with wolf packs many times. Stock, NYGM and GWX. Recently decimated two convoys with two separate pack attacks.
In term of the megamods, I only know two; NYGM and GWX.

NYGM *may* have slightly more packs, due to some convoys having them attached to them in the campaign files. Such packs get activated when the player contacts the convoy.
I believe GWX may have some attached too, but not sure. Anyone ?

In terms of calling them in via Hsie's patch, it would of course be equal as those packs are not part of any megamod files. As said above, it even works with stock (or any other type of SH3 install).

Levyathan89 · 02-04-20, 04:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Macgregor the Hammer

From what I've read, the difference between GWX Gold, LSH and NYGM is mostly realism and AI. GWX Gold is oriented more toward eyecandy and LSH & NYGM is a tougher AI and realism.

LSH is definitely the eyecandy mod. The beauty queen of super mods.

It's, at least in my opinion, waay to easy, though. There are so many enemy cargo ships everywhere that one will often be out of torpedos before even reaching the patrol grid. Also, the escorts are pretty dumb. Unless you're deliberately noisy(and sometimes eben then), they will not be able to harm you. From what I've read, the later years of the war, the mod goes from way to easy to frustratingly hard due to non-stop air attacks. I haven't checked this myself, though.

Aktungbby · 02-04-20, 10:26 AM

Levyathan89!

after a long silent run!

Levyathan89 · 02-04-20, 12:29 PM

Yeah, I know, I've been a silent reader for quite a while now^^

John Pancoast · 02-07-20, 03:04 PM

One nice thing about NYGM is that it has several good gameplay aspects that require a mod to be in GWX.

Not that they can't be in GWX, but requires a separate mod vs. being part of the megamod package already.

gord96 · 02-07-20, 03:15 PM

Just got back into SH3, but in the past, GWX was always my go to. Decided to try LSH this time and I think it's fantastic. It does what the name says, makes the world feel more alive. Bombing raids on ports while you're getting underway, more activity in the North Sea (which I appreciate as a type II captain in 1939/early 1940). Ship interiors for Type II and Type VII as default, etc. Very impressed so far.

01-14-20, 09:33 AM	#1
Macgregor the Hammer Chief Join Date: Nov 2019 Location: Minnesota Posts: 325 Downloads: 535 Uploads: 1	SH 3 Megamod Comparison I'm looking for some input regarding the 3 most popular megamods available for SH3. From what I've read, the difference between GWX Gold, LSH and NYGM is mostly realism and AI. GWX Gold is oriented more toward eyecandy and LSH & NYGM is a tougher AI and realism. Am I wrong in my impressions? I know the only way to form an opinion is try them, but as it stands, I have GWX Gold in-place and in the middle of a campaign. Thanks for any input..... Macgregor out-------- __________________ "It's impossible to make anything fool proof....Fools are too ingenious!"

01-14-20, 11:28 AM	#2
propbeanie CTD - it's not just a job Join Date: May 2016 Location: One hour from Music City USA! Posts: 10,098 Downloads: 451 Uploads: 2	What you need is https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/ima...n_Confused.gif MultiSH3 from maikhaas' download page. I thought it was on SubSim, but could not find it... Anyway, you need a separate copy of SH3 for each mod. I have a Steam copy of the game, so I used 7zip on the contents of my original "C:\Games \Steam \SteamApp \common \Silent Hunter 3" install folder, and then copied the file I had named "SH3.7z", to a new folder I created named "SH3_GWX" in that same "common" folder, such that I had a "Silent Hunter 3" folder, and an "SH3_GWX" folder. Unzip the 7z file inside the folder, and added that "new" SH3.exe it to the Steam start menu, and renamed it. Then copy and use MultiSH3 to create a "GWX" Save folder. Same thing with NYGM and LSH for those mods. What ever you want to name the "new" Game folder and Save folder, only the Save folder can only be composed of 3 letters and / or numbers... With that though, you can try each mod, and they won't get in each others' way, other than taking up hard drive space... __________________ "...and bollocks to the naysayers" - Jimbuna

01-14-20, 03:53 PM	#3
John Pancoast Ocean Warrior Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Minnysoda Posts: 3,211 Downloads: 501 Uploads: 4	I've done a lot of campaigns in GWX and NYGM. Don't have the machine for LSH. I haven't noticed much if any difference in AI between the two if one uses realistic tactics and mindset. If one doesn't any AI can be to easy or tough. Personally, I think the AI in both is so-so, but a lot of that is due to game limitations. I also think GWX isn't just about eye candy; it's plenty "realistic" too and that includes the reasons for some of the eye candy. NYGM does have some nice equipment/gameplay realism additions vs. GWX but that doesn't mean one couldn't add the same into GWX on their own. There are various minor likes and dislikes I have in each, but nothing show stopping. Overall I prefer NYGM, but can't go wrong with either. Both are great and those involved can't be thanked enough. __________________ "Realistic" is not always GAME-GOOD." - Wave Skipper

02-04-20, 10:26 AM	#7
Aktungbby Gefallen Engel U-666 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: On a tilted, overheated, overpopulated spinning mudball on Collision course with Andromeda Galaxy Posts: 30,014 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	welcome aboard! Levyathan89! after a long silent run! __________________ "Only two things are infinite; The Universe and human squirrelyness?!!

02-07-20, 03:04 PM	#9
John Pancoast Ocean Warrior Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Minnysoda Posts: 3,211 Downloads: 501 Uploads: 4	One nice thing about NYGM is that it has several good gameplay aspects that require a mod to be in GWX. Not that they can't be in GWX, but requires a separate mod vs. being part of the megamod package already. __________________ "Realistic" is not always GAME-GOOD." - Wave Skipper

01-15-20, 05:03 PM	#4
zeus Lieutenant Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 267 Downloads: 971 Uploads: 0	Did you participate in wolfpacks with subs IA? With whitch are megamod are there moré wolfpacks?

02-04-20, 12:29 PM	#8
Levyathan89 Soundman Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Dresden, Germany Posts: 147 Downloads: 50 Uploads: 0	Yeah, I know, I've been a silent reader for quite a while now^^

02-07-20, 03:15 PM	#10
gord96 Commodore Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 627 Downloads: 57 Uploads: 0	Just got back into SH3, but in the past, GWX was always my go to. Decided to try LSH this time and I think it's fantastic. It does what the name says, makes the world feel more alive. Bombing raids on ports while you're getting underway, more activity in the North Sea (which I appreciate as a type II captain in 1939/early 1940). Ship interiors for Type II and Type VII as default, etc. Very impressed so far.