Nuke sub game like sh5 possible?

bstanko6 · 12-16-18, 06:47 PM

I love my SH series and I fell in love with sh5 ability to walk around the sub and interact with your crew. Why have we not seen a modern nuke game like this?

Kapitan · 12-18-18, 01:12 PM

Nearest you will get is dangerous waters so far they have not made one like SH5 for nuclear boats

bstanko6 · 12-19-18, 01:27 PM

I have DW. I even have 688i hunter/killer. But it never feels like I'm in command of the boat. Only that I am clicking station to station. I love SH5 walking around, I never teleport. I run from post to post giving commands. I hope in my lifetime someone will get this idea and create a good nuke boat sim.

mapuc · 12-19-18, 07:06 PM

There is Command Modern Air and Naval Operation(CMANO)

In this game you can create your own mission in the mission editor and give your subs possibility to use nukes.

Markus

bstanko6 · 12-19-18, 10:14 PM

I have that too! But I yearn to walk the deck of a modern hunter killer.

Platapus · 12-20-18, 05:26 PM

I think it would be hard for a developer to make a business case for this.

Submarine games are already a limited niche market. A lot of people play games for the excitement and action. Unless you artificially create a war (Red Storm rising), I don't think that modern nuclear submarines fit in with action and excitement.

I am sure that there are some who would love to spend their time silently following a boomer being unable to do practically anything except very small and gradual changes in course, speed, depth for days at a time. But I would not want to invest any money in that demographic.

Then there is the niche market would be interested in exploring the inside of a modern submarine. This niche wants realism and reproduction of the actual inside of a submarine.

The intersection of those two niches would be the target market and i don't think that would support a for-profit developer.

Perhaps, from a marketing standpoint, the two should be treated separately.

Games for those who like game play and the necessary distancing from reality.

Simulators for those truly interested in the history/technology and do not want any distancing from reality.

Trying to develop software that is both a game (fun to play) and a simulator (high fidelity to realism) at the same time is not easy.
There are always compromises and hence dissatisfactions. This is especially true when it comes to submarines where the reality is not non stop excitement and action.

I think the last thing anyone wants is a submarine simulator that is always 100% accurate. .

12-16-18, 06:47 PM	#1
bstanko6 Admiral Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Murwik Naval Academy Posts: 2,130 Downloads: 390 Uploads: 13	Nuke sub game like sh5 possible? I love my SH series and I fell in love with sh5 ability to walk around the sub and interact with your crew. Why have we not seen a modern nuke game like this?

12-18-18, 01:12 PM	#2
Kapitan Sub Test Pilot Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK + Canada Posts: 7,130 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 7	Nearest you will get is dangerous waters so far they have not made one like SH5 for nuclear boats __________________ DONT FORGET if you like a post to nominate it by using the blue diamond Find out about Museum Ships here: https://www.museumships.us/ Flickr for all my pictures: https://www.flickr.com/photos/131313936@N03/ Navy general board articles: https://www.navygeneralboard.com/author/aegis/

12-20-18, 05:26 PM	#6
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,365 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	I think it would be hard for a developer to make a business case for this. Submarine games are already a limited niche market. A lot of people play games for the excitement and action. Unless you artificially create a war (Red Storm rising), I don't think that modern nuclear submarines fit in with action and excitement. I am sure that there are some who would love to spend their time silently following a boomer being unable to do practically anything except very small and gradual changes in course, speed, depth for days at a time. But I would not want to invest any money in that demographic. Then there is the niche market would be interested in exploring the inside of a modern submarine. This niche wants realism and reproduction of the actual inside of a submarine. The intersection of those two niches would be the target market and i don't think that would support a for-profit developer. Perhaps, from a marketing standpoint, the two should be treated separately. Games for those who like game play and the necessary distancing from reality. Simulators for those truly interested in the history/technology and do not want any distancing from reality. Trying to develop software that is both a game (fun to play) and a simulator (high fidelity to realism) at the same time is not easy. There are always compromises and hence dissatisfactions. This is especially true when it comes to submarines where the reality is not non stop excitement and action. I think the last thing anyone wants is a submarine simulator that is always 100% accurate. . __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

12-19-18, 01:27 PM	#3
bstanko6 Admiral Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Murwik Naval Academy Posts: 2,130 Downloads: 390 Uploads: 13	I have DW. I even have 688i hunter/killer. But it never feels like I'm in command of the boat. Only that I am clicking station to station. I love SH5 walking around, I never teleport. I run from post to post giving commands. I hope in my lifetime someone will get this idea and create a good nuke boat sim.

12-19-18, 07:06 PM	#4
mapuc CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 20,537 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	There is Command Modern Air and Naval Operation(CMANO) In this game you can create your own mission in the mission editor and give your subs possibility to use nukes. Markus

12-19-18, 10:14 PM	#5
bstanko6 Admiral Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Murwik Naval Academy Posts: 2,130 Downloads: 390 Uploads: 13	I have that too! But I yearn to walk the deck of a modern hunter killer.