AtomBombing - More good news for Windows 10

Skybird · 11-10-16, 01:49 PM

http://blog.ensilo.com/atombombing-a...rity-solutions

http://www.infosecurity-magazine.com...s-millions-of/

A serious security hole that cannot be patched since it exploits no broken code or flaw, but the way W10 specifically was designed to be. Affects all Windows versions, but especially W10, it seems.

Learn to live with it - or abandon Windows.

Still wanting a cashless-"money"-society?

11-11-16, 11:16 AM

Don't worry. Russian tanks driven by transexual Islamic fundamentalists are massing on the borders right now, and money will be worthless within a week anyway.

Seriously, Skybird, do you ever look at the internet for anything other than sky-falling-in stories?

CaptainHaplo · 11-13-16, 10:39 AM

Thw idea it can not be patched is a fallacy. The article also misrepresents code injection and its ability to not be found.

Running in a sandbox alleviates the problem as well....

Rockin Robbins · 11-13-16, 01:17 PM

Actually there's a way to check for that happening which is quite simple. Open up an administrator Command Window. Start button, type cmd in the search box, see cmd.exe in the results window, right click that and choose "run as administrator."

Now, in the command window, type "sfc /scannow" mash enter or return (your choice!) and wait while the magic happens. SFC means System File Check.

No, Windows is not an all-inclusive GUI. There are many functions which still must be done from the mangled, shrunken husk of DOS. This is one of them. It will scan all system files on your system for changes. If it finds changes, it will restore them to the certified code. Code injection detected if present and corrected.

11-13-16, 02:51 PM

Yup. Windows is crap, but claiming that there are 'unpatchable' security holes simply doesn't make sense. It is code. Code can be changed. And if it is impossible to fix code flaws by changing it, simple logic would show that it wasn't a Windows problem, but a fundamental problem with computer architecture.

Many of these Windows security scares seem to be ultimately sourced to people who have a vested interest in promoting them - antivirus software producers, and other marketers of IT security solutions. The issue needs to be taken seriously, but hyperbole doesn't help.

Skybird · 11-13-16, 05:42 PM

Its not a patch what Robbins suggests. The problem remains, and cannot be patched - which is not my claim, but a fact.

And many - the overwhelming majority of - Windows users do not know what he suggested. In fact they never have even heard of atom tables, and so stay vulnerable to the described problem and its consequences

Leave your known personal antipathy for me to GT forums' threads, AndyJWest, it must not have a place in here. This is no politics at all.

http://news.softpedia.com/news/malwa...e-509721.shtml

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2...787875#2787875

11-10-16, 01:49 PM	#1
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,747 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	AtomBombing - More good news for Windows 10 http://blog.ensilo.com/atombombing-a...rity-solutions http://www.infosecurity-magazine.com...s-millions-of/ A serious security hole that cannot be patched since it exploits no broken code or flaw, but the way W10 specifically was designed to be. Affects all Windows versions, but especially W10, it seems. Learn to live with it - or abandon Windows. Still wanting a cashless-"money"-society? __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

11-13-16, 10:39 AM	#3
CaptainHaplo Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 4,404 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 0	Thw idea it can not be patched is a fallacy. The article also misrepresents code injection and its ability to not be found. Running in a sandbox alleviates the problem as well.... __________________ Good Hunting! Captain Haplo

11-13-16, 01:17 PM	#4
Rockin Robbins Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: DeLand, FL Posts: 8,899 Downloads: 135 Uploads: 52	Actually there's a way to check for that happening which is quite simple. Open up an administrator Command Window. Start button, type cmd in the search box, see cmd.exe in the results window, right click that and choose "run as administrator." Now, in the command window, type "sfc /scannow" mash enter or return (your choice!) and wait while the magic happens. SFC means System File Check. No, Windows is not an all-inclusive GUI. There are many functions which still must be done from the mangled, shrunken husk of DOS. This is one of them. It will scan all system files on your system for changes. If it finds changes, it will restore them to the certified code. Code injection detected if present and corrected. __________________ Sub Skipper's Bag of Tricks, Slightly Subnuclear Mk 14 & Cutie, Slightly Subnuclear Deck Gun, EZPlot 2.0, TMOPlot, TMOKeys, SH4CMS

11-13-16, 05:42 PM	#6
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,747 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	Its not a patch what Robbins suggests. The problem remains, and cannot be patched - which is not my claim, but a fact. And many - the overwhelming majority of - Windows users do not know what he suggested. In fact they never have even heard of atom tables, and so stay vulnerable to the described problem and its consequences Leave your known personal antipathy for me to GT forums' threads, AndyJWest, it must not have a place in here. This is no politics at all. http://news.softpedia.com/news/malwa...e-509721.shtml http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2...787875#2787875 __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

11-11-16, 11:16 AM	#2
AndyJWest Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Don't worry. Russian tanks driven by transexual Islamic fundamentalists are massing on the borders right now, and money will be worthless within a week anyway. Seriously, Skybird, do you ever look at the internet for anything other than sky-falling-in stories?

11-13-16, 02:51 PM	#5
AndyJWest Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Yup. Windows is crap, but claiming that there are 'unpatchable' security holes simply doesn't make sense. It is code. Code can be changed. And if it is impossible to fix code flaws by changing it, simple logic would show that it wasn't a Windows problem, but a fundamental problem with computer architecture. Many of these Windows security scares seem to be ultimately sourced to people who have a vested interest in promoting them - antivirus software producers, and other marketers of IT security solutions. The issue needs to be taken seriously, but hyperbole doesn't help.