Neutral ships October 1939

Ellar · 07-20-16, 04:58 PM

I just picked up where I left off a few months ago with a patrol in October 1939 out of Wilhelmshaven. Only modification is GWX. I've had earlier incidents in this career sinking neutral ships. I remember a slew of messages outlining the fast-changing rules of engagement in the previous patrol. I thought the way they settled out, anything British is fair game going into this patrol.

Almost as soon as I hit my assigned grid, I came across a nice, juicy, blacked out Large Merchant on a night with no moon. Because of my previous problems with neutral ships, I did exterior view and went right up to the Large Merchant in the inky blackness and clearly observed a red flag with the Union Jack in the corner. Couldn't see and other markings in the red field, but it shouldn't matter in October 1939, right?

Got it towards the rear with a torpedo and it limped over the line out of my assigned patrol area. Seas were too rough to man the deck gun. It was only making 1 knot so it eventually sank within sight.

I went to save and exit some time later, and the game scored ten thousand whatever tons of NEUTRAL shipping sunk. Wtf? Is it because it was unescorted? What's the date you can start sinking British singles? ::wink wink:: ::nudge nudge:: Say no more!

Sailor Steve · 07-20-16, 05:54 PM

No, it shouldn't matter. Britain becomes an enemy on September 3, 1939, and it doesn't matter if they are escorted or not. I'm not sure what is wrong, but it sounds like something is.

Unless you misread the flag, or the date somehow, then you may need to reinstall the game. I hope it doesn't come to that. Hopefully someone else will have a better answer.

Ellar · 07-20-16, 07:22 PM

Thank you.

Mittelwaechter · 07-20-16, 08:38 PM

Might have been an US merchant. In pitch dark the flag looks like the British.

Where was your asigned grid? Where did you sink the merchant?

North/South of Ireland by chance? If Northern Sea - probably no US vessel.

Ellar · 07-20-16, 08:53 PM

BE61-ish - Southwest of Ireland.

Mittelwaechter · 07-20-16, 10:11 PM

According to B-Dienst, an American C2 “Orinocco” hit a British mine in October 1939, south-west of Ireland. It was transporting pudding powder from Panama.
All hands survived and made it to Ireland.

The flag identification in SH3 is apita.

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THEBERBSTER · 07-21-16, 07:58 AM

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07-20-16, 04:58 PM	#1
Ellar Swabbie Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Long Island, New York Posts: 6 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	Neutral ships October 1939 I just picked up where I left off a few months ago with a patrol in October 1939 out of Wilhelmshaven. Only modification is GWX. I've had earlier incidents in this career sinking neutral ships. I remember a slew of messages outlining the fast-changing rules of engagement in the previous patrol. I thought the way they settled out, anything British is fair game going into this patrol. Almost as soon as I hit my assigned grid, I came across a nice, juicy, blacked out Large Merchant on a night with no moon. Because of my previous problems with neutral ships, I did exterior view and went right up to the Large Merchant in the inky blackness and clearly observed a red flag with the Union Jack in the corner. Couldn't see and other markings in the red field, but it shouldn't matter in October 1939, right? Got it towards the rear with a torpedo and it limped over the line out of my assigned patrol area. Seas were too rough to man the deck gun. It was only making 1 knot so it eventually sank within sight. I went to save and exit some time later, and the game scored ten thousand whatever tons of NEUTRAL shipping sunk. Wtf? Is it because it was unescorted? What's the date you can start sinking British singles? ::wink wink:: ::nudge nudge:: Say no more!

07-20-16, 05:54 PM	#2
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	No, it shouldn't matter. Britain becomes an enemy on September 3, 1939, and it doesn't matter if they are escorted or not. I'm not sure what is wrong, but it sounds like something is. Unless you misread the flag, or the date somehow, then you may need to reinstall the game. I hope it doesn't come to that. Hopefully someone else will have a better answer. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

07-20-16, 08:38 PM	#4
Mittelwaechter The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,304 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	Might have been an US merchant. In pitch dark the flag looks like the British. Where was your asigned grid? Where did you sink the merchant? North/South of Ireland by chance? If Northern Sea - probably no US vessel. __________________ 10 happy wolves rear 90 blinded, ensnared sheep. 90 happy sheep banish the wolves. Arrest the 1% - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQ6hg1oNeGE

07-20-16, 10:11 PM	#6
Mittelwaechter The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,304 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	According to B-Dienst, an American C2 “Orinocco” hit a British mine in October 1939, south-west of Ireland. It was transporting pudding powder from Panama. All hands survived and made it to Ireland. The flag identification in SH3 is apita. Do you want to have a special Zeiss UZO with x25 zoom? __________________ 10 happy wolves rear 90 blinded, ensnared sheep. 90 happy sheep banish the wolves. Arrest the 1% - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQ6hg1oNeGE

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07-20-16, 07:22 PM	#3
Ellar Swabbie Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Long Island, New York Posts: 6 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	Thank you.

07-20-16, 08:53 PM	#5
Ellar Swabbie Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Long Island, New York Posts: 6 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	BE61-ish - Southwest of Ireland.