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Old 11-03-15, 09:24 PM   #1
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Default Transgender ruling, boy allowed in girl's locker room.

I'm pretty damn liberal, but this is going too far. They gave every accommodation to this trans boy with male parts, but he demanded full access to be in the girl's locker room, shower, dress, etc...

Question is, if this is the future, will all restrooms, locker rooms, etc, just be unisex and would you be OK with it?

Do our children that don't want to see the nakedness or share showers with others of the opposite gender, does this invade their privacy rights?

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/US-.../03/id/700273/
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Old 11-03-15, 09:32 PM   #2
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I'm sure no woman would mind this person being in the restroom with her, of course.
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Which transgender has to register with selective service?
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If unisex restrooms had seperate cubicles then I see no problem with it. After all you only remove clothing in the cubicle itself so where's the harm. You'd need the cubicle to run floor to ceiling and have a good internal lock to prevent perverts, but otherwise it should work fine.
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If unisex restrooms had seperate cubicles then I see no problem with it. After all you only remove clothing in the cubicle itself so where's the harm. You'd need the cubicle to run floor to ceiling and have a good internal lock to prevent perverts, but otherwise it should work fine.
We get those in Russia nowadays. So that is fine, but the changing rooms are different I think.
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Pha, we used to share one locker room in high school with girls because we'd otherwise have to share the boys locker room with a rival class (and the rival girls we're using the boys locker room).
So we saw eachother in underwear, big deal. My boxer shorts we're clean. No one was raped, no one got pregnant, no one is traumatised today and that one gay in class was gay before high school.

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Question is, if this is the future, will all restrooms, locker rooms, etc, just be unisex and would you be OK with it?
Yes.
Because such seperation was never forced upon me and the first time I saw female genitalia was when I was 5 or 6, reading the family medical manual and I walked away from it un-affected.
I shudder to think what trauma would be caused by my mother freaking out over it.

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Old 11-04-15, 10:31 AM   #7
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Because such seperation was never forced upon me and the first time I saw female genitalia was when I was 5 or 6, reading the family medical manual and I walked away from it un-affected.
I shudder to think what trauma would be caused by my mother freaking out over it.
CMON! YOU could read medical journals at FIVE! Or were u just ogling the pichers? I first saw that at a Star Trek movie...and was severely traumatized! But seriously, the TG- afflicted (technically handcapped-seeking benefits) used to come into my Social Security Appeal Court offices, and under the rules, we gave them their key of preference to the secured (ladies) restroom-The duties of Federal bailiffs are myriad- this was in the early turn of the 21st century before political correctness had fully set in. There were never any problems aside from initial squawks from old-school maven employees. One guy came to the court to resolve his claim four times and always used the ladies room but on the fourth visit:...he erred and (hastily) used the men's room...I 'dutifully' reported it to the ALJ in charge of his case who 'judiciously' cut the benefit 25%! JUSTI$E occa$ionally prevail$ BBY!
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Old 11-04-15, 05:54 AM   #8
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Question is, if this is the future, will all restrooms, locker rooms, etc, just be unisex and would you be OK with it?
In this part of the world the future is here. I was at the local university sports complex to watch my grandson play hockey. There it was, a gender neutral washroom. Funny thing is it was just a single user washroom. You go in by yourself and you lock the door. Ah political correctness, it may be correct but it's not efficient.
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Old 11-04-15, 07:04 AM   #9
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As long as there is the means for absolute privacy for each individual (lockable cubicle) I wouldn't have thought it should be too problematic.
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As long as there is the means for absolute privacy for each individual (lockable cubicle) I wouldn't have thought it should be too problematic.
My thoughts as well.
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We've had French unisex commodes in San Francisco for years. The company doesn't maintain them very well and they are drug transaction locations. They're supposed to be 'self cleaning'...after each use
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I will just bet that that isn't the only transaction that happens in them.
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We've had French unisex commodes in San Francisco for years. The company doesn't maintain them very well and they are drug transaction locations. They're supposed to be 'self cleaning'...after each use
The City of Los Angeles has few of those units installed at various places throughout the city and they seem to work pretty well. I have used one that is just outside a subway station in downtown LA. It was clean and in pretty good order. After each use, some sort of automatic, mechanical process cleans out the interior. There is also a time limit for each use; once the time expires, the door automatically opens, whether the occupant is finished or not. It seems to have been an effective deterrent to uses other than intended. There is also an override the authorities can use for access if they suspect any questionable activity...


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I'm pretty damn liberal, but this is going too far. They gave every accommodation to this trans boy with male parts, but he demanded full access to be in the girl's locker room, shower, dress, etc...

Question is, if this is the future, will all restrooms, locker rooms, etc, just be unisex and would you be OK with it?

Do our children that don't want to see the nakedness or share showers with others of the opposite gender, does this invade their privacy rights?

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/US-.../03/id/700273/
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Perhaps if you claimed to be a lesbian?...


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