NASA's encyclopedia

[mapuc]

NASA's encyclopedia have only two words-it looks like.

Under the atmosphere every unknown object = weather balloon-change when they find out what it was

In Space-every unknown object-space debris- Change when they find out what it was

So there you have it.

Use to see this NASA Unexplained- wonder how many times the word Space Debris are being used in a single program.

Markus

[Oberon]

I'm sensing a trend here...

[Torplexed]

Weather balloons are known to exist and have testable properties. Space debris is known to exist and it has testable properties. Birds, Venus, swamp gas are known to exist and they have testable properties. Prior proof of existence and a set of testable properties makes these explanations automatically less crazy than pure conjecture about UFOs.

Space aliens are not yet known to exist. Since no one can tell us what properties they or their alleged vehicles have, it is not possible to test whether some mysterious object in the sky can be explained by them. No, weather balloons are not as exciting as space aliens, but real investigation is about what is provably likely, not about what you can wildly imagine.

[Oberon]

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[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Oberon

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Rgr that.

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by Torplexed

Weather balloons are known to exist and have testable properties. Space debris is known to exist and it has testable properties. Birds, Venus, swamp gas are known to exist and they have testable properties. Prior proof of existence and a set of testable properties makes these explanations automatically less crazy than pure conjecture about UFOs.

Space aliens are not yet known to exist. Since no one can tell us what properties they or their alleged vehicles have, it is not possible to test whether some mysterious object in the sky can be explained by them. No, weather balloons are not as exciting as space aliens, but real investigation is about what is provably likely, not about what you can wildly imagine.

It is funny somehow. After have seen some episodes of NASA-unexplained files. The sentence "NASA say it's Space debris" was said many times throughout the series and here at Subsim I have seen on several occasion friends posting a picture with lots of different object and with only one word under each and one of them-Weather Balloon-that made me wonder

Have NASA only two words in their dictionary ?

forgot something- I wrote this in my first thread "In Space-every unknown object-space debris- Change when they find out what it was"

In one of the episode the speaker said-NASA say it's Space debris-later NASA found out that this was a part from SpaceShuttle Colombia.


Markus

[Torplexed]

Originally Posted by mapuc

me wonder

Have NASA only two words in their dictionary ?

Who knows? Maybe someday they'll add Lenticular Cloud. That won't stop people from seeing what they want to see.

[Oberon]

Originally Posted by mapuc

In one of the episode the speaker said-NASA say it's Space debris-later NASA found out that this was a part from SpaceShuttle Colombia.


Markus

Well...they weren't wrong...

[Dowly]

Originally Posted by mapuc

After have seen some episodes of NASA-unexplained files.

[Gargamel]

I hate those "unexplained" shows. I watch them every now and then if they come on after something I have been watching, but even fox news looks at them and says "dang, that's a lot of spin".

If you just apply Occam's razor, then it's all very simple.

But why haven't we made contact yet? IE, the Fermi Paradox. There's a few scenarios:

1) They don't exist. Given the number of scenarios and environments that life has been found to exist, I find it highly unlikely. With the amount of exoplanet's estimated in our own galaxy, yet alone the universe, the odds are life exists in many locations. On a philosophical level, I don't like this, as it negates the need to even look.

2) They haven't evolved their technology to sufficient level. While this is possible, it's highly unlikely. Our technological boom has only taken a couple thousand years, depending on when you start counting. That's not even a blink of an eye cosmologically. Maybe we are the first to start exploring and studying space, but I doubt it, the odds are vastly against it.

3) Physics prevents direct contact over such long distances. This may be possible, with warp drive and other FTL travel and communication forever remaining in science fiction, never becoming fact. But again, we can't know unless we try, repeatedly.

4) They are refraining from contact. This doesn't make much sense to me. If they are operating to something similar to Star Trek's Prime Directive, then we are clearly at a point technologically where we are no longer protected by it. We are actively looking for life out there. If they are hiding for nefarious reasons, then it makes some sense, but not much. If they can travel that far, and not be easily detected, then we are obviously not a threat to them. Yes, the element of surprise is a thought, but even without it, what could we do in the mean time?

[Schroeder]

Originally Posted by Gargamel

But why haven't we made contact yet?

Because of the Federation's Prime Directive. They won't make first contact until we're warp capable.

[Oberon]

Originally Posted by Schroeder

Because of the Federation's Prime Directive. They won't make first contact until we're warp capable.

Probably just as well since in our current state this will probably be how it would go:

Originally Posted by Schroeder

Because of the Federation's Prime Directive. They won't make first contact until we're warp capable.

Schroeder won the thread.

[Rhodes]

Originally Posted by Schroeder

Because of the Federation's Prime Directive. They won't make first contact until we're warp capable.

Originally Posted by Nippelspanner

Schroeder won the thread.

[Harvs]

I believe there has to be something else out here, but why would you want to come here ? Get locked up and cut open by the shiny shoe'd mob,or get mugged and murdered and your spaceship stolen because you landed in the wrong neighbourhood.
Also our atmosphere could be like acid for them, just because we survive in it does not mean they or their ships can.