[REL] Leader-type destroyers

the_frog · 02-28-15, 01:29 PM

Hello,

here's another model I recently completed. It's a spin-off of the meanwhile shelved "V&W destroyers, all variants" project:

It presents the Scott & Shakespeare classes as well as the very similar Spanish Churruca and Argentine Mendoza classes. It is mainly built along the line of the Scott class, with some features of the Shakespeare and Churruca classes.
The main intention is to give Spain and Argentine some distinct vessels but I also included roster files for Britain and Australia. The model does not cover the Romanian Regele Ferdinand class, since more different. The 2nd group of the Churrucas (with more modern guns) is covered by an equipment layout.
The textures cover the plain colour schemes of the Spanish and Argentine navies plus some basic scheme for RN and RAN vessels. So, no fancy camouflage patters

http://www.mediafire.com/download/r2.../NDD_Leader.7z

Cheers -- the Frog

Scout614 · 02-28-15, 02:48 PM

Frog you never cease to amaze me. I should transfer to the surface navy.

LGN1 · 02-28-15, 03:48 PM

Very nice work, the_frog!

I assume this ship can also be used to replace the stock V&W class destroyer or wouldn't this make sense?

Regards, LGN1

the_frog · 02-28-15, 05:58 PM

@scout614: for playable ships the level of detail is not high enough (my opinion)

@LGN1:

... these ships were originally intended as leaders of the V&W flotillas ...

Scout614 · 02-28-15, 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the_frog

@scout614: for playable ships the level of detail is not high enough (my opinion)

@LGN1:

... these ships were originally intended as leaders of the V&W flotillas ...

Completely agree oh well

Borgneface · 03-02-15, 01:14 PM

Another fantastic work! Thank you The_Frog. I really hope to be able to set up my pc very soon and at last replay...I keep storing all these new ships .....for the big day!

Merci again

iambecomelife · 03-03-15, 08:28 PM

Very good; they look like the last DD's produced by Britain before the end of WWI.

the_frog · 03-04-15, 04:20 PM

@JapLance:

Thanks for the picture + link. Great!! Now, I can do create my version of the Scrap Iron Flotilla

You applied flags and pennant uising an AO map, right? Is Ch the pennant of the 2nd Churrura? And wasn't that a group 1 vessel (with old guns)?

@Iambecomelife:

Right, the Scott class was the last class of RN destroyers, entering service during the final months of WWI. The lead ship was sunk by SM UC 17 15 August 1918.

03-05-15, 03:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the_frog

@JapLance:

Thanks for the picture + link. Great!! Now, I can do create my version of the Scrap Iron Flotilla

You applied flags and pennant uising an AO map, right? Is Ch the pennant of the 2nd Churrura? And wasn't that a group 1 vessel (with old guns)?

No, everything is painted on top of your skin. I had to tweak the 3D model and the original texture (a few portholes were deleted) so the other side doesn't look mirrored, and use it only for the Spanish ships. My idea was to paint the other side pennant somewhere else on the texture, but I found out there were no empty places

, so I had to use this solution.

Correct, CH is for Churruca.

Spanish Churrucas lost the gun between the funnels during the SCW (to arm the new units entering service), and it was replaced by a second 76mm in some cases, or some light AA in others. The shield of the 4.7in guns was changed to a full one after the war. Not a different gun, but just the protection for the crew.

There were a few more visual changes (Tripod main mast, rear mast eliminated, new director, funnel cap, torpedo tubes etc), but that would take much longer to do.

An example of a WW2 time Churruca, Almirante Miranda:

the_frog · 03-05-15, 04:46 PM

Looking at the Wikipedia picture of José Luis Díez (DZ) (series 1) I finally released that those were not the later Model F guns but just old ones fitted with box-type shields.
Well, and the series 2 had not only different guns but also in many other details.

All that could have been considered but would have required doing several (slightly) different models. Instead, I decided for one generic version

03-06-15, 02:28 AM

I understand perfectly. I'm more than happy with the version you have released.

I noticed all this in the Spanish ships only because they are the ones I was most interested in. I guess that if you take a good look at the Argentinian ships, there will also be differences that would possibly justify another model, and then the modernizations after 20 years in British service... You could possibly have to craft 4 or more different models.

A generic one is a perfect compromise, and an excellent job, as usual

.

02-28-15, 01:29 PM	#1
the_frog Commander Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 457 Downloads: 17 Uploads: 0	Leader-type destroyers Hello, here's another model I recently completed. It's a spin-off of the meanwhile shelved "V&W destroyers, all variants" project: It presents the Scott & Shakespeare classes as well as the very similar Spanish Churruca and Argentine Mendoza classes. It is mainly built along the line of the Scott class, with some features of the Shakespeare and Churruca classes. The main intention is to give Spain and Argentine some distinct vessels but I also included roster files for Britain and Australia. The model does not cover the Romanian Regele Ferdinand class, since more different. The 2nd group of the Churrucas (with more modern guns) is covered by an equipment layout. The textures cover the plain colour schemes of the Spanish and Argentine navies plus some basic scheme for RN and RAN vessels. So, no fancy camouflage patters http://www.mediafire.com/download/r2.../NDD_Leader.7z Cheers -- the Frog

03-02-15, 01:14 PM	#6
Borgneface Captain Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Near La Rochelle - On board U-205 Posts: 540 Downloads: 679 Uploads: 0	Another fantastic work! Thank you The_Frog. I really hope to be able to set up my pc very soon and at last replay...I keep storing all these new ships .....for the big day! Merci again __________________ Borgneface

03-03-15, 08:28 PM	#7
iambecomelife Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 4,710 Downloads: 300 Uploads: 0	Very good; they look like the last DD's produced by Britain before the end of WWI. __________________ https://www.facebook.com/WolvesoftheKaiser/

02-28-15, 02:48 PM	#2
Scout614 Bosun Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 62 Downloads: 18 Uploads: 0	Frog you never cease to amaze me. I should transfer to the surface navy.

02-28-15, 03:48 PM	#3
LGN1 Ace of the Deep Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,138 Downloads: 147 Uploads: 12	Very nice work, the_frog! I assume this ship can also be used to replace the stock V&W class destroyer or wouldn't this make sense? Regards, LGN1

02-28-15, 05:58 PM	#4
the_frog Commander Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 457 Downloads: 17 Uploads: 0	@scout614: for playable ships the level of detail is not high enough (my opinion) @LGN1: ... these ships were originally intended as leaders of the V&W flotillas ...

03-04-15, 04:20 PM	#8
the_frog Commander Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 457 Downloads: 17 Uploads: 0	@JapLance: Thanks for the picture + link. Great!! Now, I can do create my version of the Scrap Iron Flotilla You applied flags and pennant uising an AO map, right? Is Ch the pennant of the 2nd Churrura? And wasn't that a group 1 vessel (with old guns)? @Iambecomelife: Right, the Scott class was the last class of RN destroyers, entering service during the final months of WWI. The lead ship was sunk by SM UC 17 15 August 1918.

03-05-15, 04:46 PM	#10
the_frog Commander Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 457 Downloads: 17 Uploads: 0	Looking at the Wikipedia picture of José Luis Díez (DZ) (series 1) I finally released that those were not the later Model F guns but just old ones fitted with box-type shields. Well, and the series 2 had not only different guns but also in many other details. All that could have been considered but would have required doing several (slightly) different models. Instead, I decided for one generic version

03-06-15, 02:28 AM	#11
JapLance Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	I understand perfectly. I'm more than happy with the version you have released. I noticed all this in the Spanish ships only because they are the ones I was most interested in. I guess that if you take a good look at the Argentinian ships, there will also be differences that would possibly justify another model, and then the modernizations after 20 years in British service... You could possibly have to craft 4 or more different models. A generic one is a perfect compromise, and an excellent job, as usual .