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I'm trying to use (inside a spredsheet) the double leg Ekelund range formula as detailed by Goldorack in this post: here
My questions are: #1 - Is the variable "TrgBearing_1" the faired (by least squared method) bearing of all the bearings plotted for the fisrt leg? #2 - Is the Bearing Rate also a faired value? EDIT#1: Some time later... I found this post by SeaQueen, maybe there lies the answer to my question, but I'm not clever/mathematically skilled enough to sort this out... If there is anybody reading that knows or is able to come up with the answer, please, I will be happy to know it ![]() EDIT#2: Even more time later... I found explanations about the TMA process in general and about time/bearing plot, in particular, starting from page 17, chapter 10 of the "Operations Specialist - Volume 1" Nonresident Training Course, anybody can consult it here. The time/bearing plot contains the answers to my questions above, but in graphical terms. Mmmm... some solutions had come to my mind: [1] Spreadsheet + formula solution. I'm thinking that the time/bearing plot could be easly recorded in a spreadsheet, while the graphical process of fairing bearing values and measure the bearing rate could be easly translated (for those math-inclined) in a mathematical process (a formula). Now I think I understand what SeaQueen (and probably more DW users in the past) had done. [2] Pen, paper and Bearing Rate template solution. I think I could use an A4 squared sheet and a pen and make myself the time/bearing plot. But then I will need to use a Bearing Rate template to measure the bearing rate... Any idea on how to build one? [3] Custom software with a GUI (let me dream...) The more advanced solution, would be a custom software in which to input the time/bearing values for a segment and then get the faired bearing and the bearing rate as output. Well, at this point, of course, step #2 would be to give the software the ability to record/store a set of segments (TMA legs) and to compute the Ekelund range and maybe some other stuff... I've dreamed about a LOS interactive display to formulate and test multiple hypotetical solutions concurrently... The largest obstacle inside DW, AFAIK, is the ability to take precise time/bearing readings cause the game basically gives you: a) bearing values rounded to the nearest integer unit; b) timed bearing reads every 2 minutes (every even game minute, to be precise). Fortunatley I have found a solution for issue 'a' (a not-too-cumbersome technique to precisley measure bearings to the nearest decimal) but I've notyet found a solution for issue 'b'. Last edited by banryu79; 02-27-15 at 09:59 AM. |
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I have no idea what this is, but as an engineer, my curiosity with numbers is killing me haha I must investigate this!
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I've found very intresting info in this way, especially when I identified several users who had real Navy experience to share and looking for threads started by them. It's time consuming, but very valuable. EDIT: First post updated. Last edited by banryu79; 02-26-15 at 10:21 AM. |
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Another question for those who knows... (unreleted to the current topic).
Do you know if (and how) DW models knuckles in the water produced by sudden maneuvers? EDIT: First post updated, again. Last edited by banryu79; 02-27-15 at 06:35 AM. |
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i) Determine the bearings from NAVmap every 2 (1 in new RAmod) minutes. ii) Calculate the bearing rate with a pocket calculator. ii) Knowing how to interpret the data. ps: double leg Ekelund range formula, requires at least 16 minutes. It's better determine the solution in tma station. |
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