A Sad State Of Affairs

Jimbuna · 12-06-14, 09:52 AM

Hardly surprising when you consider the amount of austerity measures our armed forces have been subject to.

Shame on the politicians

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'Morale poor' among UK crews at RAF Akrotiri, Cyprus.

Raids against Islamic State are being conducted from RAF Akrotiri in Cyprus "with broken jets and tired and fed-up people", BBC Newsnight has been told.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-30338659

Schroeder · 12-06-14, 10:55 AM

That's poor indeed but reflect the status of a lot of armed forces these days. It probably doesn't help either that the Tornado is way past it's peak. it's a good bomber but it's age is showing and if there are no spare parts and crews to fix it it will fall apart in combat.

raymond6751 · 12-06-14, 11:24 AM

It's information like this that sets Putin to smiling, and getting bolder. No doubt his forces are equally in need, but you can never expect them to complain.

It is our right to complain, in the free world, but there are reasons why weaknesses should not be revealed.

eddie · 12-06-14, 11:43 AM

It is sad to see this happen.

Schroeder · 12-06-14, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by raymond6751

It is our right to complain, in the free world, but there are reasons why weaknesses should not be revealed.

I think there are reasons to not let these weaknesses happen in the first place. To say "Keep quiet and deal with it!" will only lead to more weaknesses as the guys the guys in uniform will get demoralized more and more especially when it comes to completely avoidable stuff like that food issue for the night shift.

Wolferz · 12-06-14, 01:46 PM

Wouldn't it be nice if nobody showed up the next time the politicians decide to throw a war party?

Skybird · 12-06-14, 02:29 PM

In my understanding the British forces always stood out from the rest of the Western forces, for two reasons: their training standard, and their morale/motivation.

If you take away one of these two major factors, then logically only one remains.

Not good. Its all becoming a bit thin.

Not meaning to say that things are better with German armed forces. Not at all. And the German defence budget is smaller than the British...

Skybird · 12-06-14, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolferz

Wouldn't it be nice if nobody showed up the next time the politicians decide to throw a war party?

You mean the enemy side's politicians?

"Its better to have a weapon and not needing it, than to need a weapon, and not having one."

"Those who have no swords still can die upon them."

12-06-14, 10:55 AM	#2
Schroeder Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Banana Republic of Germany Posts: 6,170 Downloads: 62 Uploads: 0	That's poor indeed but reflect the status of a lot of armed forces these days. It probably doesn't help either that the Tornado is way past it's peak. it's a good bomber but it's age is showing and if there are no spare parts and crews to fix it it will fall apart in combat. __________________ Putting Germ back into Germany.

12-06-14, 11:24 AM	#3
raymond6751 Admirable Mike Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 1,338 Downloads: 421 Uploads: 0	Not news It's information like this that sets Putin to smiling, and getting bolder. No doubt his forces are equally in need, but you can never expect them to complain. It is our right to complain, in the free world, but there are reasons why weaknesses should not be revealed. __________________ Game Designer: Close The Atlantic - World War Three https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/...orld-war-three

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eddie Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,023 Downloads: 99 Uploads: 0	It is sad to see this happen. __________________ Don't mistake my kindness for weakness. I'm kind to everyone, but when someone is unkind to me, weak is not what you are going to remember about me. Al Capone

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Wolferz Navy Seal Join Date: May 2007 Location: On a mighty quest for the Stick of Truth Posts: 5,963 Downloads: 52 Uploads: 0	Wouldn't it be nice if nobody showed up the next time the politicians decide to throw a war party? __________________ Tomorrow never comes

12-06-14, 02:29 PM	#7
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,669 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	In my understanding the British forces always stood out from the rest of the Western forces, for two reasons: their training standard, and their morale/motivation. If you take away one of these two major factors, then logically only one remains. Not good. Its all becoming a bit thin. Not meaning to say that things are better with German armed forces. Not at all. And the German defence budget is smaller than the British... __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.