Falklands War 2?

Jimbuna · 10-31-14, 08:59 AM

I don't think so.

The Argentine economy is in a much worse state than ours so I should think any seller would be wanting cash in advance.

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Argentina’s announcement that it plans to acquire 24 Saab Gripen fighter-bombers caused scarcely a ripple in the headlines last week, and so far has produced no reaction from Whitehall.

http://www.theweek.co.uk/world-news/...serious-threat

Oberon · 10-31-14, 09:05 AM

I did ponder exactly what Argentina was going to use to buy these aircraft...then again, I pondered the same thing about us and those F-35s...

Dread Knot · 10-31-14, 09:18 AM

Maybe they're desperate to make some sort of statement the time remaining before the new carrier Queen Elizabeth is operational?

Sees like sabre-rattling and nothing more - the Argentinians have nothing to gain from any use of force. It would isolate them even more internationally and financially and if they were successful at invading and occupying the islands they wouldn't gain access to any (potential) off-shore oil in anything like the short to mid-term.

Betonov · 10-31-14, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Oberon

I did ponder exactly what Argentina was going to use to buy these aircraft...then again, I pondered the same thing about us and those F-35s...

What ??
You already own F-35s

I ''saw'' one in York

Jimbuna · 10-31-14, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Betonov

What ??
You already own F-35s

I ''saw'' one in York

Indeed we did

Tchocky · 10-31-14, 09:43 AM

All depends on the next Top Gear, I'd say.

Skybird · 10-31-14, 10:28 AM

The Gripen by no means is a bad plane, it really is not.

If the Argentinians show intent to acquire any means to secure a naval transport capacity that in any way could defeat a subsim menace from Britian, or their airmobile capacity would be evaluated by Britian to be capable enough to shuttle decisive combat force to the islands if the few Typhoons there (how many were it? 4?) got neutralised - then it is time to start worrying. I take it for granted that these days Britain does not have the military capacity anymore, the money and the will, to re-conquer the Falklands once again in case of Argentina or a Southamerican alliance managing to seize them and gain control of them.

Notoriously needing to invest one submarine's presence there, strategically is a costly affair in times of a significantly shrunk fleet. That sub cannot be at another location if it is at the Falklands, and not too many submarines are left in the fleet. The very longterm future of the Falklands maybe is not as certain as Britons today think. And the Americans will not lend a hand over those islands.

Jimbuna · 10-31-14, 09:25 AM

Pinched this comment from another forum....I liked it

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Every so often a story pops up about the Argies buying some wonderful bit of kit that imperils the Falklands, and what happens? Nothing, because they are skint and spending money on the armed forces only seems to encourage the generals to want to run the country - so another reason to keep them on a tight lead.

Last time out the Spanish were alleged to be flogging them Mirages, before that the Israelis - both times nothing - Argentina is a strictly 'cash only' sales area.

Four Typhoons with 8 A/A missiles each and IAD? Goodbye first wave of attackers, by wave 3 the pilot vacancies in the FAA and Navy are astronomical and RAF pilots have time for tea and (South Atlantic) medals while a Squadron of the buggers has flown down via Asi to join the turkey-shoot

Of course they could send in the Ninja Suicide Penguins......but our Rockhoppers are nails

10-31-14, 09:43 AM	#6
Tchocky Navy Seal Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,874 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	All depends on the next Top Gear, I'd say. __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

10-31-14, 10:28 AM	#7
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,685 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	The Gripen by no means is a bad plane, it really is not. If the Argentinians show intent to acquire any means to secure a naval transport capacity that in any way could defeat a subsim menace from Britian, or their airmobile capacity would be evaluated by Britian to be capable enough to shuttle decisive combat force to the islands if the few Typhoons there (how many were it? 4?) got neutralised - then it is time to start worrying. I take it for granted that these days Britain does not have the military capacity anymore, the money and the will, to re-conquer the Falklands once again in case of Argentina or a Southamerican alliance managing to seize them and gain control of them. Notoriously needing to invest one submarine's presence there, strategically is a costly affair in times of a significantly shrunk fleet. That sub cannot be at another location if it is at the Falklands, and not too many submarines are left in the fleet. The very longterm future of the Falklands maybe is not as certain as Britons today think. And the Americans will not lend a hand over those islands. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

10-31-14, 09:05 AM	#2
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	I did ponder exactly what Argentina was going to use to buy these aircraft...then again, I pondered the same thing about us and those F-35s...

10-31-14, 09:18 AM	#3
Dread Knot Ace of the Deep Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,288 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	Maybe they're desperate to make some sort of statement the time remaining before the new carrier Queen Elizabeth is operational? Sees like sabre-rattling and nothing more - the Argentinians have nothing to gain from any use of force. It would isolate them even more internationally and financially and if they were successful at invading and occupying the islands they wouldn't gain access to any (potential) off-shore oil in anything like the short to mid-term.