Anyone playing the latest "Thief" game?

Platapus · 09-16-14, 06:35 PM

The reviews on Steam are not favourable.

I have been looking forward to this game for years. But the more helpful reviews say that if you liked Thief 1,2,3 you won't like 4.

Too bad.

Anyone here play it and if so wadda ya think of it?

d@rk51d3 · 09-16-14, 07:35 PM

Really wanted to give it a go, but too many bad reviews.

Threadfin · 09-17-14, 09:52 AM

I've been playing Thief since The Dark Project, huge fan of the series. I bought Thief 4 despite all the negative talk about it, since I love the series so much I had to see for myself.

And I like it. What it is missing mostly is the Thief lore, and has a weak story line. But I found a lot to like. The actually 'thiefing' is well done. It has the most fleshed out city in the entire series. Graphics are good. People complain about stuff like loot glint, but I just turn it off so that everything isn't so obvious. Loading screen carry overs from the console port can be annoying, but there ya are.

I didn't buy it at release, I bought it a couple months ago. So maybe it improved from the initial reaction. I think people, and gamers in particular, tend to look at things through nostalgia-tinted glasses. Some are unable to take things at face value and instead base their judgement on their expectations.

For me, just looking at T4 as a game standing on it's own, I found it well worth the money I paid for it, even if perhaps it doesn't display true fidelity to the games that came before.

Platapus · 09-17-14, 05:56 PM

Good to hear from someone who actually played it.

While it has a well developed city, did you find the gameplay linear? That was one of the complaints. Were you able to jump from any point or only select points?

Was there a patch that fixed the sound problems? That's a killer in a sneaking game.

Threadfin · 09-17-14, 10:37 PM

No not linear. And really Thief TDP and Metal Age were more linear, as you could only do the missions. T3 added a bit of freedom with being able to move around about the various districts. T4 continues with this, you can move around as you see fit. You can get many missions and side quests that you can do when you like. Obviously to move the story forward you will need to do the main missions, but there are so many side quests available that it gives it a sort of quasi-open world feel to it, even if perhaps it's more of an illusion, but it's good enough for me.

As for the sound, yes, I found that 'positional' sound cues could use some work. Voices, in particular, might sound too far away, or too close considering the actual distance to the player and the environmental obstructions, such as walls. Regardless, it didn't bother me much, but I suppose I tend to look past such things and not let them ruin what I found to be an otherwise good game.

Metal Age is one of my favorite games ever. Levels like Framed, First City Bank and Trust and Life of the Party are to me the quintessential Thief experience. And while I won't go so far as to say T4 lives up to those memories, I also realize that I may also have a bit of nostalgia-tint as well.

With T4 being a $10 game these days, I think any fan of the series should pick it up. It may be a disappointment, but what do you have to lose?

banryu79 · 09-18-14, 03:45 AM

I too am a fan of the Thief series (played Thief:TDP and Thief:TMA in the fabulous Looking Glass era).
I recently discovered "The Dark Mod" and found it is no more a mod but a stand alone game... It's done with the engine of Doom3 and I'm currently in the process of playing it.

Well, in a word: it's the most "Thiefy" experience I had since the time of Thief:TMA. Quality of the gameplay is superb and high fidelty, IMO.

Try it: it's free. You will not be disappointed.

http://www.thedarkmod.com/main/

Swabbie · 09-29-14, 11:47 AM

I'm one of those long time fans of the series too. Been playing since 99.

I didn't like this new Thief game at all. I thought is was horrible and deserving of all the bad reviews it got. Over the years I've replayed The Dark Project and Metal Age many times. Only played the new game once and then uninstalled it. To me, Dishonored felt more like a Thief game then it did.

The Dark Mod is really good. The Thief's Circle and TTLG forums are good places to look for fan mission for thief 1, 2 and 3. Thief 2X, Shadows of the Metal Age. Is a whole 13 mission campaign. With the female protagonist Zaya. Not bad for a fan made game.

Threadfin · 09-30-14, 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Swabbie

To me, Dishonored felt more like a Thief game then it did.

Agreed, Dishonored was very good and a good spiritual successor to Thief.

09-16-14, 06:35 PM	#1
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,393 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	Anyone playing the latest "Thief" game? The reviews on Steam are not favourable. I have been looking forward to this game for years. But the more helpful reviews say that if you liked Thief 1,2,3 you won't like 4. Too bad. Anyone here play it and if so wadda ya think of it? __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

09-17-14, 09:52 AM	#3
Threadfin Ace of the Deep Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 1,163 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	I've been playing Thief since The Dark Project, huge fan of the series. I bought Thief 4 despite all the negative talk about it, since I love the series so much I had to see for myself. And I like it. What it is missing mostly is the Thief lore, and has a weak story line. But I found a lot to like. The actually 'thiefing' is well done. It has the most fleshed out city in the entire series. Graphics are good. People complain about stuff like loot glint, but I just turn it off so that everything isn't so obvious. Loading screen carry overs from the console port can be annoying, but there ya are. I didn't buy it at release, I bought it a couple months ago. So maybe it improved from the initial reaction. I think people, and gamers in particular, tend to look at things through nostalgia-tinted glasses. Some are unable to take things at face value and instead base their judgement on their expectations. For me, just looking at T4 as a game standing on it's own, I found it well worth the money I paid for it, even if perhaps it doesn't display true fidelity to the games that came before. __________________ What? Behind the rabbit?

09-17-14, 05:56 PM	#4
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,393 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	Good to hear from someone who actually played it. While it has a well developed city, did you find the gameplay linear? That was one of the complaints. Were you able to jump from any point or only select points? Was there a patch that fixed the sound problems? That's a killer in a sneaking game. __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

09-17-14, 10:37 PM	#5
Threadfin Ace of the Deep Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 1,163 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	No not linear. And really Thief TDP and Metal Age were more linear, as you could only do the missions. T3 added a bit of freedom with being able to move around about the various districts. T4 continues with this, you can move around as you see fit. You can get many missions and side quests that you can do when you like. Obviously to move the story forward you will need to do the main missions, but there are so many side quests available that it gives it a sort of quasi-open world feel to it, even if perhaps it's more of an illusion, but it's good enough for me. As for the sound, yes, I found that 'positional' sound cues could use some work. Voices, in particular, might sound too far away, or too close considering the actual distance to the player and the environmental obstructions, such as walls. Regardless, it didn't bother me much, but I suppose I tend to look past such things and not let them ruin what I found to be an otherwise good game. Metal Age is one of my favorite games ever. Levels like Framed, First City Bank and Trust and Life of the Party are to me the quintessential Thief experience. And while I won't go so far as to say T4 lives up to those memories, I also realize that I may also have a bit of nostalgia-tint as well. With T4 being a $10 game these days, I think any fan of the series should pick it up. It may be a disappointment, but what do you have to lose? __________________ What? Behind the rabbit?

09-18-14, 03:45 AM	#6
banryu79 Samurai Navy Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Italy Posts: 554 Downloads: 82 Uploads: 2	The Dark Mod - HF Thief experience I too am a fan of the Thief series (played Thief:TDP and Thief:TMA in the fabulous Looking Glass era). I recently discovered "The Dark Mod" and found it is no more a mod but a stand alone game... It's done with the engine of Doom3 and I'm currently in the process of playing it. Well, in a word: it's the most "Thiefy" experience I had since the time of Thief:TMA. Quality of the gameplay is superb and high fidelty, IMO. Try it: it's free. You will not be disappointed. http://www.thedarkmod.com/main/ Last edited by banryu79; 09-18-14 at 08:36 AM.

09-16-14, 07:35 PM	#2
d@rk51d3 Sea Lord Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Adelaide, South Australia Posts: 1,953 Downloads: 207 Uploads: 0	Really wanted to give it a go, but too many bad reviews.

09-29-14, 11:47 AM	#7
Swabbie Sailor man Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: New Jersey Posts: 50 Downloads: 129 Uploads: 0	I'm one of those long time fans of the series too. Been playing since 99. I didn't like this new Thief game at all. I thought is was horrible and deserving of all the bad reviews it got. Over the years I've replayed The Dark Project and Metal Age many times. Only played the new game once and then uninstalled it. To me, Dishonored felt more like a Thief game then it did. The Dark Mod is really good. The Thief's Circle and TTLG forums are good places to look for fan mission for thief 1, 2 and 3. Thief 2X, Shadows of the Metal Age. Is a whole 13 mission campaign. With the female protagonist Zaya. Not bad for a fan made game. __________________ "Potius Mori Quam Foedar"