Saves Frustration

podunkpete · 03-15-14, 05:13 PM

I'm at wits end, about to give up careers. For some reason saving games in a career is a crapshoot, usually with the odds against me. I'm running Wolves of the Pacific with OM 7.2 and nothing else. I had made it to 01/45 with increasing problems with saves that just couldn't be restarted. In the end I had no working saves. Goodbye 2 carriers and a huge European liner. I blew out everything, re-installed and started over, and on my 3rd patrol I've got a saved game that is useless. I've tried saving on the surface, not making any changes for a period before a save, reducing sound/graphic complexities,you name it. I'm guessing some upgrade outside the game is causing me heartache, but I've also noticed the museum also crashes. Any ideas??

fireftr18 · 03-15-14, 06:04 PM

Are you overwriting saves? That's normally the problem. Always save in a new file. I start with a master save while in the office, ex: "Fireftr18." The while saving on patrol, I add a number to it, ex: "Fireftr18-1." After finishing a patrol, delete them all and start over.

TorpX · 03-15-14, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by podunkpete

I'm guessing some upgrade outside the game is causing me heartache, but I've also noticed the museum also crashes. Any ideas??

You aren't changing/experimenting with mods between saves, are you? That usually leads to problems.

The museum has always been flakey; I wouldn't worry about that.

mobucks · 03-16-14, 09:04 AM

I also suggest never to save near any AI, never to save near any harbor.

I always save while surfaced, open water (no nearby landmass), all stop, no units within ~20 km. (or whatever the distance is that draws units.) I don't even save near sinking/destroyed units.

torpedobait · 03-16-14, 10:20 AM

It may be superstition according to some on the board (no disrespect intended), but in addition to being at least 50nm from any shore installation, etc. I followed someone's advice and only save when surfaced and in the Control Room. Works flawlessly for me.

TorpX · 03-16-14, 10:52 PM

I don't know if it's superstition (or maybe trauma from SH3), but my experience is very different. I've saved in many different circumstances with very few problems.

I have never overwritten saves, though.

Diopos · 03-17-14, 02:29 AM

I rarely had any problems with saved files (even overwritten ones). What I have observed is a lag during the opening of said files when there are a lot of saved files in the folder. So, what I do during a career, is that I delete save files from previous missions, except from the "in port" ones and those of my current mission. Now, what is a "lag" in my system, might something more severe in another system ...

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fireftr18 · 03-17-14, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by torpedobait

It may be superstition according to some on the board (no disrespect intended), but in addition to being at least 50nm from any shore installation, etc. I followed someone's advice and only save when surfaced and in the Control Room. Works flawlessly for me.

This goes back to older systems when sh4 came out. The computers had difficulty processing all the information to load the game. Newer systems don't have that problem.

Aktungbby · 03-17-14, 03:15 PM

Podunkpete! after a year of silent running! on your second post!

LCQ_SH · 03-20-14, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by mobucks

I also suggest never to save near any AI, never to save near any harbor.

I always save while surfaced, open water (no nearby landmass), all stop, no units within ~20 km. (or whatever the distance is that draws units.) I don't even save near sinking/destroyed units.

Lol... that's is lovely.......not being able to save whenever you want to.......

I've had had the same troubles (except the torps one...), I was having more petty officers than allowed (Guess it's a bug that allows me to promote all sailors to petty officers...) and all my saves after that were corrupt......just deleted the extra petty officers and that's it...

Good luck

captgeo · 03-20-14, 04:17 PM

I over write my saves all the time , never had a problem,

the rule for saving that I have always used.......

never save with contacts close

never save while submerged

ReallyDedPoet · 03-20-14, 05:25 PM

Welcome to SUBSIM podunkpete

I see you have been with us for a couple of years, but recently started to post again. Each save I think is a new one, based on the date in that particular save. Starting with that save and saving anew and then deleting the old saves will not affect your game. At least I have not had this issue.

podunkpete · 04-04-14, 06:14 PM

Well, it's still happening. I think I may be closing in on the source, though. The one tip that my saves are useless is the following: I see the ship sink, I'm told the ship has sunk, the ship is added to my captain's log as sunk, but, THERE IS NO ICON ON THE MAP SHOWING A SINKING! I'm starting to think it's a video card (or update) issue. Each time I've had useless saves, it's after watching a sinking. In one case the ship was blazing, sinking fast, and then the flames went out, the ship seemed to take too long to sink, and then EGAD everything said ship sunk except the map. Experimenting I found that deck gun or torpedoes, if it isn't on the map something is corrupt. I love this game but boy, is it making me pay!

TorpX · 04-05-14, 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by podunkpete

Well, it's still happening.

You should post a screen shot of your JSGME mod activation list. Without knowing exactly what you're running, we can only make wild guesses as to what's wrong.

Sniper297 · 04-04-14, 08:52 PM

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=212256

03-15-14, 05:13 PM	#1
podunkpete Sailor man Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Sub Capital of the World - Grotn Ct USA Posts: 47 Downloads: 189 Uploads: 0	Saves Frustration I'm at wits end, about to give up careers. For some reason saving games in a career is a crapshoot, usually with the odds against me. I'm running Wolves of the Pacific with OM 7.2 and nothing else. I had made it to 01/45 with increasing problems with saves that just couldn't be restarted. In the end I had no working saves. Goodbye 2 carriers and a huge European liner. I blew out everything, re-installed and started over, and on my 3rd patrol I've got a saved game that is useless. I've tried saving on the surface, not making any changes for a period before a save, reducing sound/graphic complexities,you name it. I'm guessing some upgrade outside the game is causing me heartache, but I've also noticed the museum also crashes. Any ideas??

03-15-14, 06:04 PM	#2
fireftr18 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Kentucky Posts: 2,528 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 0	Are you overwriting saves? That's normally the problem. Always save in a new file. I start with a master save while in the office, ex: "Fireftr18." The while saving on patrol, I add a number to it, ex: "Fireftr18-1." After finishing a patrol, delete them all and start over. __________________ Of all the forms of Martial Arts, Karaoke causes the most pain!

03-16-14, 10:20 AM	#5
torpedobait Ace of the Deep Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,073 Downloads: 397 Uploads: 0	It may be superstition according to some on the board (no disrespect intended), but in addition to being at least 50nm from any shore installation, etc. I followed someone's advice and only save when surfaced and in the Control Room. Works flawlessly for me. __________________ Run Silent, Run Deep, and Sink 'em All

03-16-14, 10:52 PM	#6
TorpX Silent Hunter Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 3,975 Downloads: 153 Uploads: 11	I don't know if it's superstition (or maybe trauma from SH3), but my experience is very different. I've saved in many different circumstances with very few problems. I have never overwritten saves, though.

03-17-14, 02:29 AM	#7
Diopos Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Athens, the original one. Posts: 1,226 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	I rarely had any problems with saved files (even overwritten ones). What I have observed is a lag during the opening of said files when there are a lot of saved files in the folder. So, what I do during a career, is that I delete save files from previous missions, except from the "in port" ones and those of my current mission. Now, what is a "lag" in my system, might something more severe in another system ... . __________________ - Oh God! They're all over the place! CRASH DIVE!!! - Ehm... we can't honey. We're in the car right now. - What?... er right... Doesn't matter! We'll give it a try anyway!

03-16-14, 09:04 AM	#4
mobucks Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 713 Downloads: 209 Uploads: 0	I also suggest never to save near any AI, never to save near any harbor. I always save while surfaced, open water (no nearby landmass), all stop, no units within ~20 km. (or whatever the distance is that draws units.) I don't even save near sinking/destroyed units.

03-17-14, 03:15 PM	#9
Aktungbby Gefallen Engel U-666 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: On a tilted, overheated, overpopulated spinning mudball on Collision course with Andromeda Galaxy Posts: 30,032 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	welcome back Podunkpete! after a year of silent running! on your second post! __________________ "Only two things are infinite; The Universe and human squirrelyness?!!

03-20-14, 04:17 PM	#11
captgeo Samurai Navy Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Ontario,Canada Posts: 550 Downloads: 105 Uploads: 0	I over write my saves all the time , never had a problem, the rule for saving that I have always used....... never save with contacts close never save while submerged __________________

03-20-14, 05:25 PM	#12
ReallyDedPoet Canadian Wolf Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Canada. The one and only, East Coast Posts: 10,888 Downloads: 946 Uploads: 5	Welcome to SUBSIM podunkpete I see you have been with us for a couple of years, but recently started to post again. Each save I think is a new one, based on the date in that particular save. Starting with that save and saving anew and then deleting the old saves will not affect your game. At least I have not had this issue. __________________ Back in the Day

04-04-14, 06:14 PM	#13
podunkpete Sailor man Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Sub Capital of the World - Grotn Ct USA Posts: 47 Downloads: 189 Uploads: 0	AAArghhhh! Well, it's still happening. I think I may be closing in on the source, though. The one tip that my saves are useless is the following: I see the ship sink, I'm told the ship has sunk, the ship is added to my captain's log as sunk, but, THERE IS NO ICON ON THE MAP SHOWING A SINKING! I'm starting to think it's a video card (or update) issue. Each time I've had useless saves, it's after watching a sinking. In one case the ship was blazing, sinking fast, and then the flames went out, the ship seemed to take too long to sink, and then EGAD everything said ship sunk except the map. Experimenting I found that deck gun or torpedoes, if it isn't on the map something is corrupt. I love this game but boy, is it making me pay!

04-04-14, 08:52 PM	#15
Sniper297 The Old Man Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Philadelphia Shipyard Brig Posts: 1,386 Downloads: 160 Uploads: 19	http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=212256