[REL] Grom class destroyers

the_frog · 02-15-14, 02:51 PM

Hello,

I did a model of the Polish Grom class destroyers.

The basic model is that of the Blyskawica after re-fitting in 1941; however, early equipment is included.

Known issue:
Camouflage schemes are made using best estimates of colours of the respective time. So, late schemes tend to be largely greenish. I am aware, internet photographs of Blyskawica as a museum often sport plenty of blue. This is especially striking with photographs showing her in a 1941 Western Approaches Scheme. However, those schemes used off white as the base tone but not baby blue ...

DL: http://www.mediafire.com/download/g7...D_Grom_mod.zip

the Frog

Aktungbby · 02-15-14, 04:08 PM

GROM!

My very first confirmed sinking in SHII from my 'Kanöe' TYPE II... but yours looks a whole lot better! Really great stuff here...thanks!

Missing Name · 02-15-14, 10:17 PM

You keep churning these out! Good work, kamerad

02-16-14, 02:47 AM

However only two of those were built according to wikipedia..

brett25 · 02-16-14, 03:02 AM

really nice work mate....beautiful ship

Jimbuna · 02-16-14, 07:22 AM

She looks the business matey

the_frog · 02-17-14, 01:54 PM

@sailorX:

Well, there were also just two Nelsons, two Bismarcks, two xxx ...

@Leitender:

As stated, the base model is the end-1941 configuration. During the refit, Blyskawica's original rangefinder/director was replaced by a British high-angle director, equiped with a 285 gunnery radar; also a sea-/air-warning radar was added. However, I couldn't find any reference to a specific instrument but the most common device at that time was the 286 ...

02-18-14, 04:00 AM

I just wanted to say that spawn probability of this class DD should be really low..

Leitender · 02-18-14, 04:19 AM

Hi the_frog,

thanks for your answer. I found a model kit site, where the ORP Blyskawica is shown in late war (1943-1944) condition. It shows the 285 6 Yagi Antenna fire control radar on the bridge, a 290/291 radar antenna on top of the mast and probably a 271 radar at the stern. Please take a look:

http://smmlonline.com/articles/blysk...lyskawica.html

Maybe the 290/291 Radar replaced an older one...

Greetings

jaxa · 02-18-14, 04:32 AM

Fantastic work the_frog, especially for Polish players like me

ORP Grom (H 71) was sinked in Narvik by German bombers He 111 during campaign in Norway, but ORP Błyskawica (H 34) happily survived the war and is a museum-ship now in Gdynia. I strongly recommend you visit this destroyer during your trip to Poland.

the_frog · 02-18-14, 05:27 PM

@leitender:
The 290/291 array was introduced in late 1941, so it could be the Blyskawica received it right during the 1941 refit

@jaxa:
All textures representing post-1940 colour patterns do have only the H34 pennant painted on

I visited Blyskawica several years ago (2006 or so). At that time, I had no camera with me, and also no idea of ever doing a 3D model of her ...

Leitender · 02-19-14, 02:06 AM

the_frog

I couldn´t find original pictures of the Blyskawica with radar antennas fitted. Maybe they have been removed from the pictures. Today it still/again has the 290/291 aerial.

Off topic:

jaxa

In 2006 you wrote a really excellent article about german radars and radar warning receivers. I use it widely as a source:

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom//showthread.php?t=94024

In the meantime, i found a great internet site from a polish expert about the radar equipment aboard german uboats. It´s really worth to take a look on it:

http://www.ubootwaffe.pl/en/u-boats/...german-u-boats

Greetings

WTCC · 02-22-14, 06:01 AM

Make a new NCO Flower and class Town, Black Swan, the Frog

02-24-14, 04:25 PM

Lovely model of a beautiful class of ships.

Master work!

the_frog · 02-25-14, 05:22 PM

@leitender: the radar equipment in the *.sns is that of the British escorts in SH3; it's historically not correct.

@WTCC: there are nice models of the late-war Flowers converted from SH4/5. The model of the Blacks Swans is one better SH3 models. Town class destroyers are not in the original SH3, only in GWX. I consider doing a model but not so soon; I have other plans.

@JapLance: some progess with the E class?

02-15-14, 02:51 PM	#1
the_frog Commander Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 457 Downloads: 17 Uploads: 0	[REL] Grom class destroyers Hello, I did a model of the Polish Grom class destroyers. The basic model is that of the Blyskawica after re-fitting in 1941; however, early equipment is included. Known issue: Camouflage schemes are made using best estimates of colours of the respective time. So, late schemes tend to be largely greenish. I am aware, internet photographs of Blyskawica as a museum often sport plenty of blue. This is especially striking with photographs showing her in a 1941 Western Approaches Scheme. However, those schemes used off white as the base tone but not baby blue ... DL: http://www.mediafire.com/download/g7...D_Grom_mod.zip the Frog __________________

02-15-14, 04:08 PM	#2
Aktungbby Gefallen Engel U-666 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: On a tilted, overheated, overpopulated spinning mudball on Collision course with Andromeda Galaxy Posts: 30,031 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	GROM! My very first confirmed sinking in SHII from my 'Kanöe' TYPE II... but yours looks a whole lot better! Really great stuff here...thanks! __________________ "Only two things are infinite; The Universe and human squirrelyness?!!

02-15-14, 10:17 PM	#3
Missing Name Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Westun New Yahk Posts: 748 Downloads: 131 Uploads: 0	You keep churning these out! Good work, kamerad __________________ Largest target sunk with deck gun: Japanese auxiliary cruiser, 15000 tons Largest engaged: HMS Nelson. Results inconclusive. Read Brag's stuff

02-16-14, 03:02 AM	#5
brett25 Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Oakland CA, USA Posts: 737 Downloads: 570 Uploads: 0	really nice work mate....beautiful ship __________________ http://shmf.larsbundgaard.dk/index.p...1tn5&board=7.0

02-16-14, 07:22 AM	#6
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,645 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	She looks the business matey __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

02-16-14, 02:47 AM	#4
sailor_X Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	However only two of those were built according to wikipedia..

02-17-14, 01:54 PM	#7
the_frog Commander Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 457 Downloads: 17 Uploads: 0	@sailorX: Well, there were also just two Nelsons, two Bismarcks, two xxx ... @Leitender: As stated, the base model is the end-1941 configuration. During the refit, Blyskawica's original rangefinder/director was replaced by a British high-angle director, equiped with a 285 gunnery radar; also a sea-/air-warning radar was added. However, I couldn't find any reference to a specific instrument but the most common device at that time was the 286 ...

02-18-14, 04:00 AM	#8
sailor_X Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	I just wanted to say that spawn probability of this class DD should be really low..

02-18-14, 04:19 AM	#9
Leitender Planesman Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 191 Downloads: 50 Uploads: 0	Hi the_frog, thanks for your answer. I found a model kit site, where the ORP Blyskawica is shown in late war (1943-1944) condition. It shows the 285 6 Yagi Antenna fire control radar on the bridge, a 290/291 radar antenna on top of the mast and probably a 271 radar at the stern. Please take a look: http://smmlonline.com/articles/blysk...lyskawica.html Maybe the 290/291 Radar replaced an older one... Greetings

02-18-14, 04:32 AM	#10
jaxa The Old Man Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Poland Posts: 1,501 Downloads: 418 Uploads: 0	Fantastic work the_frog, especially for Polish players like me ORP Grom (H 71) was sinked in Narvik by German bombers He 111 during campaign in Norway, but ORP Błyskawica (H 34) happily survived the war and is a museum-ship now in Gdynia. I strongly recommend you visit this destroyer during your trip to Poland. __________________ SHIII + GWX 3 Gold + V16B1 hardcode fixes + SH3Commander SHIV + OM + OMEGU SHV + WoS

02-18-14, 05:27 PM	#11
the_frog Commander Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 457 Downloads: 17 Uploads: 0	@leitender: The 290/291 array was introduced in late 1941, so it could be the Blyskawica received it right during the 1941 refit @jaxa: All textures representing post-1940 colour patterns do have only the H34 pennant painted on I visited Blyskawica several years ago (2006 or so). At that time, I had no camera with me, and also no idea of ever doing a 3D model of her ...

02-19-14, 02:06 AM	#12
Leitender Planesman Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 191 Downloads: 50 Uploads: 0	the_frog I couldn´t find original pictures of the Blyskawica with radar antennas fitted. Maybe they have been removed from the pictures. Today it still/again has the 290/291 aerial. Off topic: jaxa In 2006 you wrote a really excellent article about german radars and radar warning receivers. I use it widely as a source: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom//showthread.php?t=94024 In the meantime, i found a great internet site from a polish expert about the radar equipment aboard german uboats. It´s really worth to take a look on it: http://www.ubootwaffe.pl/en/u-boats/...german-u-boats Greetings

02-22-14, 06:01 AM	#13
WTCC Swabbie Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 5 Downloads: 31 Uploads: 0	Make a new NCO Flower and class Town, Black Swan, the Frog

02-24-14, 04:25 PM	#14
JapLance Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Lovely model of a beautiful class of ships. Master work!

02-25-14, 05:22 PM	#15
the_frog Commander Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 457 Downloads: 17 Uploads: 0	@leitender: the radar equipment in the *.sns is that of the British escorts in SH3; it's historically not correct. @WTCC: there are nice models of the late-war Flowers converted from SH4/5. The model of the Blacks Swans is one better SH3 models. Town class destroyers are not in the original SH3, only in GWX. I consider doing a model but not so soon; I have other plans. @JapLance: some progess with the E class?