A Question for som you more experienced Kaleuns

[Joefour]

Hi All,

I'm running SH3 with just a couple of minor mods. It finally dawned on me that my Type VIIB has what looks like a flagpole affixed to the back of the Turm, but no flag. Is this normal, or is it something political because I know SH3 is sold in Germany and other places where the (ahem) Hakenkreuz is not allowed. I know some of the U-Boots had them because I've seen some of the old black and white photos with the boat carrying one. If such is the case, is there a mod to put one on the boat?

Just wondering.

[Tonnage_Ace]

I think they took the flags off during patrol, they were only on during departure and arrival. Not a huge break of realism for me. I'm not sure about a mod that fixes it though

[Joefour]

I thought I read somewhere they'd be breaking international law if they didn't fly the flag during wartime, and according to a lot of the reading I've done, the germans were quite meticulous in abiding by the Geneva Convention and other international law in spite of some of the claims made against them.

[Sailor Steve]

There is a mod that puts flags on the boat, but it's there all the time.
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/down...do=file&id=953

Or, if you want to really have some fun there is the ultimate flags mod, which lets you raise and lower flags, pennants and the radio loop antenna:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/down...o=file&id=1882

My flag is always up in port and down once I'm at sea.

[Joefour]

Thanks Mate,

But I have one question about that mod. The description talks about raising the observation scope and/or schnorkel. The VIIB had neither. Or am I understanding this wrongly?
The other mod appears to be for GWX, which I haven't gotten into yet.

[u crank]

Originally Posted by Joefour

Thanks Mate,
But I have one question about that mod. The description talks about raising the observation scope and/or schnorkel. The VIIB had neither. Or am I understanding this wrongly?

No Type VIIB boats were equipped with the schnorkel according to www.uboat.net. On the other hand all Type VII u boats would have had both an attack and observation periscope.

[flag4]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

My flag is always up in port and down once I'm at sea.

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[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by flag4

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Wait! I didn't mean that...but...but...well...but...


Seriously, I never thought about that, but as soon as you pointed it out...

[Lokisaga]

Originally Posted by Joefour

I thought I read somewhere they'd be breaking international law if they didn't fly the flag during wartime, and according to a lot of the reading I've done, the germans were quite meticulous in abiding by the Geneva Convention and other international law in spite of some of the claims made against them.

Unrestricted submarine warfare is a violation of the London Naval Treaty. It's true that the Kriegsmarine was, more or less, unconnected with the war crimes committed by other branches of the German armed forces during WWII. However, saying that the Germans, or the German armed forces as a whole, abided by the Geneva Conventions and other international laws during WWII is a provably false claim. http://www.ushmm.org/, http://www.yadvashem.org/