Mission "score" and penalties

Vaux · 01-24-14, 02:20 PM

I searched the forum but came up dry. Forgive me if this has been beaten to death before.

When I RTB from a patrol, is there a way to see what my "score" is for that patrol? I remember reading somewhere that patrols are "scored" on a -3 to +3 scale, with -3 being "criminal", 0 being "average" or "good", and +3 being "outstanding". Any way to see what this number is?

Also, does RTBing with fish still on board result in a penalty? How about not completing an assigned mission?

Is there any penalty for disobeying an order? I once radioed a contact report for a big, fat, juicy troop transport convoy and received a reply telling me to "break off contact and RTB at your discretion". I decided the "at your discretion part" applied to both sides of the "and" and sank a Conte Verde liner. Would that have "dinged" my score?

I'm running:

TMO 2.5 with the small patch
RSRD
Traveller Mod

Armistead · 01-24-14, 05:11 PM

Should be a log on the office desk.

You won't suffer for sinking enemy ships even if you're told to break off, those messages are basically generic. You won't suffer for not doing a patrol as long as you sink ships. It's basically a point system, you get points for patrols, sinking ships, special missions, etc...you just need points. It's when you don't get points or points to a certain level you'll suffer either demotion or promotions will be slow..

I didn't Lurker placed the Conte in RSRD.....

Vaux · 01-26-14, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Armistead

I didn't Lurker placed the Conte in RSRD.....

The convoy was 3 ships in a single column. The Conte was in the lead followed by 2 Horai Marus. This was July of '43 about 100 miles SE of the Bungo Straits.

aanker · 01-26-14, 07:23 PM

In my experience all SH4 'mostly' cares about is completing your assigned Objective. After completing that and if you have enough fish remaining & fuel, you can radio for a 2nd Objective.

I experimented a few times trying to find the minimum necessary to keep SH4 satisfied and advance my career, and it came down to completing the Objectives and returning to base without damage.

Large extended patrols (refuel & refit several times) and huge tonnage numbers aren't necessary, only enough to complete the Objective requirements. My careers advanced in rank and new commands, and my crew & I received decorations.

The main thing is to have fun.

Happy Hunting!

TorpX · 01-25-14, 04:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Vaux

Also, does RTBing with fish still on board result in a penalty? How about not completing an assigned mission?

Is there any penalty for disobeying an order? I once radioed a contact report for a big, fat, juicy troop transport convoy and received a reply telling me to "break off contact and RTB at your discretion". I decided the "at your discretion part" applied to both sides of the "and" and sank a Conte Verde liner. Would that have "dinged" my score?

AFAIK, there is no penalty (or bonus) for bringing back unused fish. There probably should be a penalty for excessive use, as real-life skippers were severely criticized for using too many, at least until the torpedo shortage was over.

As Armistead says, there is a point system where points are given for tasks, or sinking ships, but there are no penalties. The only exception I know of is a penalty for sinking friendly or neutral ships.
I guess there is a penalty for having your boat shot up, or badly damaged.

SilentPrey · 01-25-14, 11:10 AM

The scale you remember reading is in the TMO manual. It tells you how much renown earned qualifies as which patrol rating. I haven't really looked but I do not recall anywhere that the patrol log will show you how much renown that patrol earned. I just usually remember about how much I had last patrol (right now I've only completed one and got 800 renown) and subtract it from the new total. If there is somewhere that the game tells you how much renown was earned on which patrol someone else will have to tell you how to find it.

01-24-14, 02:20 PM	#1
Vaux Torpedoman Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Florida Posts: 116 Downloads: 26 Uploads: 0	Mission "score" and penalties I searched the forum but came up dry. Forgive me if this has been beaten to death before. When I RTB from a patrol, is there a way to see what my "score" is for that patrol? I remember reading somewhere that patrols are "scored" on a -3 to +3 scale, with -3 being "criminal", 0 being "average" or "good", and +3 being "outstanding". Any way to see what this number is? Also, does RTBing with fish still on board result in a penalty? How about not completing an assigned mission? Is there any penalty for disobeying an order? I once radioed a contact report for a big, fat, juicy troop transport convoy and received a reply telling me to "break off contact and RTB at your discretion". I decided the "at your discretion part" applied to both sides of the "and" and sank a Conte Verde liner. Would that have "dinged" my score? I'm running: TMO 2.5 with the small patch RSRD Traveller Mod

01-24-14, 05:11 PM	#2
Armistead Rear Admiral Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: on the Dan Posts: 10,880 Downloads: 364 Uploads: 0	Should be a log on the office desk. You won't suffer for sinking enemy ships even if you're told to break off, those messages are basically generic. You won't suffer for not doing a patrol as long as you sink ships. It's basically a point system, you get points for patrols, sinking ships, special missions, etc...you just need points. It's when you don't get points or points to a certain level you'll suffer either demotion or promotions will be slow.. I didn't Lurker placed the Conte in RSRD..... __________________ You see my dog don't like people laughing. He gets the crazy idea you're laughing at him. Now if you apologize like I know you're going to, I might convince him that you really didn't mean it.

01-26-14, 07:23 PM	#4
aanker Pacific Thunder Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Yellow Sea Posts: 1,896 Downloads: 236 Uploads: 14	In my experience all SH4 'mostly' cares about is completing your assigned Objective. After completing that and if you have enough fish remaining & fuel, you can radio for a 2nd Objective. I experimented a few times trying to find the minimum necessary to keep SH4 satisfied and advance my career, and it came down to completing the Objectives and returning to base without damage. Large extended patrols (refuel & refit several times) and huge tonnage numbers aren't necessary, only enough to complete the Objective requirements. My careers advanced in rank and new commands, and my crew & I received decorations. The main thing is to have fun. Happy Hunting! __________________ " Bless those who serve beneath the deep, Through lonely hours their vigil keep. May peace their mission ever be, Protect each one we ask of thee. Bless those at home who wait and pray, For their return by night and day."

01-25-14, 11:10 AM	#6
SilentPrey Navy Dude Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Texas Posts: 171 Downloads: 58 Uploads: 2	The scale you remember reading is in the TMO manual. It tells you how much renown earned qualifies as which patrol rating. I haven't really looked but I do not recall anywhere that the patrol log will show you how much renown that patrol earned. I just usually remember about how much I had last patrol (right now I've only completed one and got 800 renown) and subtract it from the new total. If there is somewhere that the game tells you how much renown was earned on which patrol someone else will have to tell you how to find it.