Gun battle at Kenya shopping centre

Jimbuna · 09-21-13, 11:22 AM

A terrible situation....the tv and press in the UK are all over it and reports are inaccurate and many but it would appear it could well be a terrorist attack and at least 36 people have been taken hostage.

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A gun battle inside a shopping centre in the Kenyan capital Nairobi has left at least 20 people dead, the Kenyan Red Cross says.
The gunmen attacked the Westgate centre - one of the city's most exclusive. Dozens of shoppers fled; many are still feared trapped inside.
A senior police officer originally said it was an attempted robbery but later called it a possible terrorist attack.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-24186780

Schroeder · 09-21-13, 11:29 AM

In German news they said that the attackers allowed all Muslims to leave unharmed...if that is true than it's definitely a terror strike.

eddie · 09-21-13, 01:16 PM

I feel so sorry for those who were in that mall!

Jimbuna · 09-21-13, 01:40 PM

An update 25 minutes old but there is still a lot of speculation and uncertainty:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-24186780

09-21-13, 02:45 PM

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An update 25 minutes old but there is still a lot of speculation and uncertainty:

Trócaire reported that all their staff are safe, and that it appears to be overspill from Somalia

eddie · 09-21-13, 02:55 PM

"A statement from al-Shabab on its official Twitter feed Saturday says the attacks are retribution for military action by Kenya inside Somalia. The group said it was now shifting the battlefield to Kenya"

http://news.msn.com/world/22-dead-in...on-non-muslims

It was sad to read this-

"Earlier in the day mall guards used shopping carts to wheel out wounded children, as others emerged crying or clutching their kids."

09-23-13, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Schroeder

In German news they said that the attackers allowed all Muslims to leave unharmed...if that is true than it's definitely a terror strike.

If they would have shot all the Muslims too, would it not have been a terror strike then?
It is an act of terror non the less.
Some sick peoples Ideology strikes again. Let's hope for the best... even if that sounds a little stupid after what, ~70 killed all ready?

Armistead · 09-23-13, 11:01 AM

Terrible, if you couldn't prove you were Muslim you were shot. Worse, possible American and Canadians part of the terror group.

Any reports on number dead?

09-23-13, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Armistead

Terrible, if you couldn't prove you were Muslim you were shot. Worse, possible American and Canadians part of the terror group.

Any reports on number dead?

See post above yours. Around 70 so far. And there will be more, no doubt.

Jimbuna · 09-23-13, 11:19 AM

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The official death toll stands at 62 and more than 170 have been injured.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-24206913

Aktungbby · 09-24-13, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Armistead

Terrible, if you couldn't prove you were Muslim you were shot. Worse, possible American and Canadians part of the terror group.

Any reports on number dead?

Eritreans formerly living in the MPLS MN area?

Schroeder · 09-23-13, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Nippelspanner

If they would have shot all the Muslims too, would it not have been a terror strike then?

It could have meant that these guys were just gangsters out to take hostages and take ransom. There was not much info when I wrote that so it was unclear yet whether it was a terror strike or just an "normal" criminal event to make money.

eddie · 09-23-13, 03:19 PM

Doesn't seem like its ever going to end.

http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2...e-goes-on?lite

Oberon · 09-23-13, 03:30 PM

Slow, steady, methodical. Make them work to your timetable, not you rush to theirs. Close the net slowly and thoroughly, making sure no gaps are made.

It's a tricky environment to work in, a shopping mall, lots of angles, lots of exits and entry points. It'll take a while to sweep it properly. There could still be civilians inside too, which makes it tricky, as well as the possibility of combatants hiding as civilians.

09-21-13, 11:29 AM	#2
Schroeder Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Banana Republic of Germany Posts: 6,170 Downloads: 62 Uploads: 0	In German news they said that the attackers allowed all Muslims to leave unharmed...if that is true than it's definitely a terror strike. __________________ Putting Germ back into Germany.

09-21-13, 01:16 PM	#3
eddie Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,023 Downloads: 99 Uploads: 0	I feel so sorry for those who were in that mall! __________________ Don't mistake my kindness for weakness. I'm kind to everyone, but when someone is unkind to me, weak is not what you are going to remember about me. Al Capone

09-21-13, 01:40 PM	#4
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,788 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	An update 25 minutes old but there is still a lot of speculation and uncertainty: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-24186780 __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

09-21-13, 02:55 PM	#6
eddie Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,023 Downloads: 99 Uploads: 0	"A statement from al-Shabab on its official Twitter feed Saturday says the attacks are retribution for military action by Kenya inside Somalia. The group said it was now shifting the battlefield to Kenya" http://news.msn.com/world/22-dead-in...on-non-muslims It was sad to read this- "Earlier in the day mall guards used shopping carts to wheel out wounded children, as others emerged crying or clutching their kids." __________________ Don't mistake my kindness for weakness. I'm kind to everyone, but when someone is unkind to me, weak is not what you are going to remember about me. Al Capone

09-23-13, 11:01 AM	#8
Armistead Rear Admiral Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: on the Dan Posts: 10,880 Downloads: 364 Uploads: 0	Terrible, if you couldn't prove you were Muslim you were shot. Worse, possible American and Canadians part of the terror group. Any reports on number dead? __________________ You see my dog don't like people laughing. He gets the crazy idea you're laughing at him. Now if you apologize like I know you're going to, I might convince him that you really didn't mean it.

09-23-13, 03:19 PM	#13
eddie Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,023 Downloads: 99 Uploads: 0	Doesn't seem like its ever going to end. http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2...e-goes-on?lite __________________ Don't mistake my kindness for weakness. I'm kind to everyone, but when someone is unkind to me, weak is not what you are going to remember about me. Al Capone

09-23-13, 03:30 PM	#14
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Slow, steady, methodical. Make them work to your timetable, not you rush to theirs. Close the net slowly and thoroughly, making sure no gaps are made. It's a tricky environment to work in, a shopping mall, lots of angles, lots of exits and entry points. It'll take a while to sweep it properly. There could still be civilians inside too, which makes it tricky, as well as the possibility of combatants hiding as civilians.