AI Radar = does it work at all

Jace11 · 06-11-13, 07:44 PM

I set up some test missions using heavy fog / night. I then added various DDs, FFs and COs, some with the latest equipment in a later war scenario 1944. CFG dates should mean these ships are equipped with Type271, 273 or 268 radar. I could sail alongside them in the fog at about 1k distance without any sign of being detected. This is very different from previous versions, SH3 and 4, where radar over-sensitivity could be a problem...

What is going on...?

I'm not sure its the AI_sensors.sim or the sim.cfg as I've tweaked both to maximize sensitivity...

Has anyone seen DDs coming over the horizon at them like in SH3? Is is model related...? i.e do the radars lack models in the ship parts file. Does airborne radar work (I get messages about radar signals now and again)...

V13dweller · 06-11-13, 08:12 PM

I have been working around with this for a long time, most of this year.
I have been trying to get ships to use their radar's through fog.
They do use their radar's. But they only use them to find targets, not attack them.
I have been trying to get them to use them as fire directors, and fire through fog.
I have seen the Bismarck fire through fog on a few occasions but not anymore. The situation cannot be recreated by me.
If I can help in anyway, I can because I am very keen on getting the Radars to work properly.

I know for sure they actually work though, they can, and will find you using them.

To answer your question, they do, to a small extent. Not very well.

Jace11 · 06-11-13, 08:21 PM

Weird that you see that behavior. I have seen an escort chase me in fog, intermittently. (It was really tense actually!) that was a flower class CO.

I found the answer finally - unbelievable game error. Whats more amazing is no one has said anything yet there are countless mods that state to improve AI behavior with tweaks to radar sensitivity and detection times etc. Yet because of this error most escorts DONT HAVE RADAR at all!!! I'll have to check aircraft too!!!

FFS!!

V13dweller · 06-11-13, 09:41 PM

No Airplanes have radar.

I have checked already, they just use their visual sensor.

They have an R01 node so they can have a Radar equipped.

Fifi · 06-11-13, 09:47 PM

They should! Later in war of course...never checked it, cause never pass over first campaign yet

V13dweller · 06-11-13, 09:51 PM

I am very determined to make the radar work, because they Radar's are used to find targets, but I have only witnessed the Bismarck ship fire through the fog, but I cannot seem to get it to happen it again.

All the ships I arm with radar's just use it to find and locate targets, but only attack once in visual sight. And this is very frustrating.

06-11-13, 07:44 PM	#1
Jace11 Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK Posts: 683 Downloads: 104 Uploads: 1	AI Radar = does it work at all I set up some test missions using heavy fog / night. I then added various DDs, FFs and COs, some with the latest equipment in a later war scenario 1944. CFG dates should mean these ships are equipped with Type271, 273 or 268 radar. I could sail alongside them in the fog at about 1k distance without any sign of being detected. This is very different from previous versions, SH3 and 4, where radar over-sensitivity could be a problem... What is going on...? I'm not sure its the AI_sensors.sim or the sim.cfg as I've tweaked both to maximize sensitivity... Has anyone seen DDs coming over the horizon at them like in SH3? Is is model related...? i.e do the radars lack models in the ship parts file. Does airborne radar work (I get messages about radar signals now and again)...

06-11-13, 09:47 PM	#5
Fifi Navy Seal Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: France Posts: 6,094 Downloads: 466 Uploads: 0	They should! Later in war of course...never checked it, cause never pass over first campaign yet __________________ https://www.mediafire.com/file/rfw2h...N_V7.8.7z/file

06-11-13, 08:12 PM	#2
V13dweller Grey Wolf Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 768 Downloads: 101 Uploads: 2	I have been working around with this for a long time, most of this year. I have been trying to get ships to use their radar's through fog. They do use their radar's. But they only use them to find targets, not attack them. I have been trying to get them to use them as fire directors, and fire through fog. I have seen the Bismarck fire through fog on a few occasions but not anymore. The situation cannot be recreated by me. If I can help in anyway, I can because I am very keen on getting the Radars to work properly. I know for sure they actually work though, they can, and will find you using them. To answer your question, they do, to a small extent. Not very well.

06-11-13, 08:21 PM	#3
Jace11 Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK Posts: 683 Downloads: 104 Uploads: 1	Weird that you see that behavior. I have seen an escort chase me in fog, intermittently. (It was really tense actually!) that was a flower class CO. I found the answer finally - unbelievable game error. Whats more amazing is no one has said anything yet there are countless mods that state to improve AI behavior with tweaks to radar sensitivity and detection times etc. Yet because of this error most escorts DONT HAVE RADAR at all!!! I'll have to check aircraft too!!! FFS!!

06-11-13, 09:41 PM	#4
V13dweller Grey Wolf Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 768 Downloads: 101 Uploads: 2	No Airplanes have radar. I have checked already, they just use their visual sensor. They have an R01 node so they can have a Radar equipped.

06-11-13, 09:51 PM	#6
V13dweller Grey Wolf Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 768 Downloads: 101 Uploads: 2	I am very determined to make the radar work, because they Radar's are used to find targets, but I have only witnessed the Bismarck ship fire through the fog, but I cannot seem to get it to happen it again. All the ships I arm with radar's just use it to find and locate targets, but only attack once in visual sight. And this is very frustrating.