Turkish F-16 fighter crashes near Syria, killing pilot

Gerald · 05-14-13, 01:08 PM

shot down?

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The pilot of a Turkish F-16 fighter jet has been found dead after the aircraft crashed near Turkey's border with Syria, reports say.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-22513439

Note: 13 May 2013 Last updated at 21:43 GMT

Wolferz · 05-14-13, 02:03 PM

Talk about your NO FLY ZONE!

Stealhead · 05-14-13, 04:04 PM

I doubt the Syrians would be stupid enough to try and shoot down a Turkish in Turkish airspace though such an act is possible.Most likely it was an accident of some kind.

It is possible that the pilot may have planned to eject and either he ejected at a bad angle inverted towards the ground at low altitude or perhaps with the dorsal aimed at a hillside or mountain at low altitude.Also the ejection seat can work perfectly but the technicians could have improperly packed the chutes.Assuming that he managed to actually eject before the aircraft hit the ground or fell apart.

Jimbuna · 05-14-13, 04:09 PM

Speculation is inevitable considering the current problems in the area.

Platapus · 05-14-13, 04:23 PM

When I was working with the F-16 in the 80's we called them the "falling falcon". F-16's sometimes just stop flying.

A condition I doubt improves with age.

Stealhead · 05-14-13, 04:43 PM

Always a trade off with any modern fighter design you want it to have high agility which means a very unstable platform that requires fly-by-wire to fly.If the computers fail or if an important control surface fails sometimes the computers even cant keep up and you have a 30 million dollar stone.

It does show you just how much a fly-by-wire system is doing when you look at an airframe so unstable that it requires FBY.Crazy to think that in the F-16 and F-22 to name just a few that the stick does not connect to any control surface but rather a series of computers that constantly receive inputs as to the conditions and also receive inputs from the pilot which it must then correlate.

Now an A-10 you'd need to rip an entire wing off in order for her to drop.Of course the Hog is not exactly a good dog fighter.

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Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,818 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Speculation is inevitable considering the current problems in the area. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

05-14-13, 04:23 PM	#5
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,388 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	When I was working with the F-16 in the 80's we called them the "falling falcon". F-16's sometimes just stop flying. A condition I doubt improves with age. __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

05-14-13, 04:04 PM	#3
Stealhead Navy Seal Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Kentucky Posts: 5,421 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	I doubt the Syrians would be stupid enough to try and shoot down a Turkish in Turkish airspace though such an act is possible.Most likely it was an accident of some kind. It is possible that the pilot may have planned to eject and either he ejected at a bad angle inverted towards the ground at low altitude or perhaps with the dorsal aimed at a hillside or mountain at low altitude.Also the ejection seat can work perfectly but the technicians could have improperly packed the chutes.Assuming that he managed to actually eject before the aircraft hit the ground or fell apart.

05-14-13, 04:43 PM	#6
Stealhead Navy Seal Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Kentucky Posts: 5,421 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	Always a trade off with any modern fighter design you want it to have high agility which means a very unstable platform that requires fly-by-wire to fly.If the computers fail or if an important control surface fails sometimes the computers even cant keep up and you have a 30 million dollar stone. It does show you just how much a fly-by-wire system is doing when you look at an airframe so unstable that it requires FBY.Crazy to think that in the F-16 and F-22 to name just a few that the stick does not connect to any control surface but rather a series of computers that constantly receive inputs as to the conditions and also receive inputs from the pilot which it must then correlate. Now an A-10 you'd need to rip an entire wing off in order for her to drop.Of course the Hog is not exactly a good dog fighter.