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Old 05-03-13, 06:50 PM   #1
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Default OTC Test depth and range change?

Hello all,
I am playing with TMO 2.5, I have OTC.
I love both mods, but there are a couple of things I don't like. With OTC,
the Test depth is set to 450, pegs the gauge. In TMO it is around 250. Is there a way to adjust the OTC to match TMO for test depth and crush depth?
Second, TMO has the max range set to around 8700 nm. OTC sets it back to the 11,000 range (I believe TMO 2.2 had this). I found I can edit the .sim file for the subs to get this back.

Is there a way of making both of these changes without breaking either one of these mods?
I love them both and playing with both. Just a couple of little annoyances.

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Old 05-16-13, 12:03 PM   #2
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Default Just happened to find this...

I was looking for some other information when I came across this post, and it seems to directly answer your question, at least the part about the test depth. Here it is: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...postcount=3993
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Old 05-17-13, 06:54 PM   #3
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yes that does answer my question.
Thank you for the information, it is appreciated
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Old 05-17-13, 07:36 PM   #4
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You're welcome, glad to help.
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Old 05-18-13, 01:32 PM   #5
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Here's the post that's being referred to:

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Originally Posted by Roger Dodger
Thanks, Stanger. Here is the (partial) file from NSS_S18.cfg:

[Properties]
PeriscopeDepth=14.5;meters
SnorkelDepth=9.75;meters
CrashDepth=48.8;meters
MaxDepth=60;meters
SurfaceDepth=5.562;meters
TorpLaunchMaxDepth=30;meters
StormConditions=9,0.1;max wind speed [m/s], max rain intensity [0,1]

Dignan should check this file (and the NSS_S42.cfg) to be sure they are reading "MaxDepth=60;meters".

If Dignan doesn't 'do' metric (like most Americans), just think 'yards'. A meter is only about 3.5 inches longer than a yard.
Ok, I checked my files. Stock is consistent, TMO is consistent with what you all have listed here. It's OTC_TMO25 version that is the culprit. MaxDepth is showing 1000 meters. Not sure why that mod alters the submarine folder. Anyone see any reason I can't just delete that folder from the mod and reinstall?

EDIT: So I just copied the Submarine folder from TMO and overwrote the Submarine folder files in OTC mod. That seemed to do the trick. The red test depth line now reads 200 or something close to there. Took it for a test dive to about 320ft for about 10 minutes. She held but was groaning and moaning. THanks for identifying the offending file for me. I'm sure Cap'n' Scurvy didn't realize this was in his mod.
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But, I do realize the "MaxDepth=1000" is in OTC. It effects the depth gauges Crush Depth red line? Who the heck pays attention to it!?!

Roger Dodger and Digman have found a "problem" in OTC and have changed files to have the Crush Depth red line show at 200ft......yet its stated, the sub can "test dive to about 320ft for about 10 minutes"?! What's the deal with accepting the Crush Depth line set at one figure when the boat will easily go lower? I don't get the logic of this fix!!

There's a reason why OTC has the "MaxDepth=1000" in its file.

It has nothing to do with a stupid Crush Depth red line marked on the depth gauge (As I said, that "Red Line" doesn't show the actual capabilities, or limitations, of the sub anyway).

Setting the "MaxDepth=1000" parameter allows the sub to use the Keyboard "D" (Dive) key to go to whatever depth your heart desires (to your untimely death, if that's what you want to do). Without the parameter set as it is in OTC, you'll only be taken to whatever depth is listed in the "MaxDepth=" entry. The sub will level off, and you won't dive any deeper. To go deeper, players have had to use the 600ft depth dial found in the Conning Tower, or Command Room (when the dial is made "usable" by modding its capabilities). The point is, the dial will only allow you to go as deep as the dial reads......600ft. That may be OK for the S-Class boats. The S-Class won't take much greater depth than the dial reads (If I'm not mistaken the 600ft dial isn't in the S-Class boats either, only the 450ft dial). In the newer class boats, why are you willing to settle for diving to only the limitations of the depth dial, just to have the inaccurate Crush Depth red line show on the HUD depth gauge?

OTC gives you the choice to take your sub to depths yet unspecified. By doing the exact same thing any real life Captain would have done.....by simply ordering the sub to "dive". To hell with the Crush Depth marker, and the limitations of a depth dial! You want to "take her deep"? Just hit the "Dive" command. Find out what your boat will take!! I have, and the answer may surprise you.

There are limitations to each boat class. As expected, the Balao will out perform the S-Class, but you won't be limited to a Depth Dial, or Crush Depth marker for taking a sub to the deep.

I assure you, there's a reason why this file is changed as it is.
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Old 05-18-13, 04:55 PM   #6
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Well, sorry if this whole thing has raised your hackles a bit Admiral. Given your above explanation I now remember that you mentioned something about this in your readme for OTC if I recall correctly. Also I'm reminded here that Ducimus also states in the TMO manual that pressing "D" while commanding the Balao class, and one other boat type, probably the Tench, would produce a dive which would not stop until you either ordered a new depth via a depth guage, or used the "A" key to order the crew to hold a current depth. In the end, Shado had asked a question starting a new thread, which apparently you didn't see for awhile, and I happened across that post which answered his question. Sorry if this whole thing has gotten you a bit heated up.
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