It's time I finally learn (Manual shooting)

fastfed · 02-20-13, 04:23 PM

I've been playing since the beginning of Silent Hunter series, I've loved them all (Minus 5, as of now)

But one thing I never really wanted to learn out of laziness

Manual solution for shooting, I've always dealt with the computer doing it for me. My excuse was, in real life I'm sure the captain had his officers do all of that for him, lol.

So.. I figure I'd learn it with a good working game with great mods..

Here is my mods for now.

1_TriggerMaru_Overhaul_2-5
RSRDC_TMO_V502
RSRDC_V5xx_Patch1

I'm almost 100% realistic in my settings except map contacts and ext. views.

I'm leaving Pearl in a Gato April 16th 1942.

All of that said, is there any guides for idiots ? What do I need to learn? Is there an easy step by step for this?

THANKS!

edit** any thing I should add in terms of mods to make things easier?

Simmy · 02-20-13, 04:56 PM

Good luck to you.

I have tried, but with the different mods there seems to be no one good solution. I would like to refine the actual TDC method but no one seems to agree as to what works best. Then there are the methods that don't involve the TDC at all.
I was given two different files that were suppose to make the TDC work so as to make the left dial turnable for setting the AoB. But of course that didn't work. I have never seen anything as screwed up as the manual targeting system of this game. If anyone has a method, that I haven't already tried I would take a shot at that.

fastfed · 02-20-13, 06:42 PM

Wait..what??

Are you saying most people don't use ,manual targeting???

I thought I was the minority using auto targeting and now you're saying its broken ??

02-20-13, 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fastfed

Wait..what??

Are you saying most people don't use ,manual targeting???

I thought I was the minority using auto targeting and now you're saying its broken ??

Unlike your approach, I started playing and abandoned computer shooting after a few weeks. No challenge, and too me that's what the allure of this game is. Manual targeting is nothing to be afraid about. Start with the training mission for torpedo shooting and just keep running it till you get that "Ah Hah" moment. If you've been playing as much as you say you should get there quickly. You'll soon figure out that the keys to manual solutions are target speed, target course from which you can calculate target AoB, and distance. These are the three inputs to the TDC. Practice and you enjoyment with this game will increase significantly. Good luck.

Shkval · 02-20-13, 07:21 PM

Off course it works... you just need to know what are you doing... for the beginning I would add OTC mod to your list of modes... then I would learn the four bearing method... static and moving one... (later you will discover that moving one is better suited to fleet boats, than to U-boats, because of the keel mounted hydrophones). You will learn to use WO and his reports (bearing+distance= mark on the map, mark+mark= target's course/speed). You will also learn to use hydrophone and sonar in bad weather (later radar) for "blind shooting" ... measuring speed...i.e. practice, practice, and MORE practice... there are lots of tutorials on this subject on youtube and on this forum... just be persistent... for example my own personal record was hydrophone "blind" shot at 7.5 km with 3 torpedoes salvo, each one was a hit, bow, middle and stern in SH3 GWX and a few more mods. It's not easy, but when you get a grasp of procedures you will feel all the power of the submarine deadly stealth...

fireftr18 · 02-20-13, 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fastfed

Wait..what??

Are you saying most people don't use ,manual targeting???

I thought I was the minority using auto targeting and now you're saying its broken ??

I think most do use manual targeting, most of those that are more vocal anyway.

I still use auto targeting. I did learn manual and got pretty decent at it, but just didn't like it.

I encourage you to go ahead and try it. You may like it.

fastfed · 02-20-13, 08:28 PM

I found this tutorial , seems to be pretty popular

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/down...o=file&id=1647

Is that a good one? I'm going to print it out and put it in a little booklet

I kind of get it.. looks like I'm entering the data and the tdc computer kind of figures it out..

I remember in many books that the Americans TDC was better than the Germans at the time?

Carrollsue · 02-20-13, 08:39 PM

I have being playing this game (SH up to 4) for a long time now and just started to use manual, first got the OTC and then though reading, trying it out

, MORE reading and trying it out

, asking questions and getting great responds back

….I can now say that that I’m somewhere between poor-good range ( we call it midlen), but love it! Have fun!

02-20-13, 04:23 PM	#1
fastfed Grey Wolf Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 786 Downloads: 254 Uploads: 0	It's time I finally learn (Manual shooting) I've been playing since the beginning of Silent Hunter series, I've loved them all (Minus 5, as of now) But one thing I never really wanted to learn out of laziness Manual solution for shooting, I've always dealt with the computer doing it for me. My excuse was, in real life I'm sure the captain had his officers do all of that for him, lol. So.. I figure I'd learn it with a good working game with great mods.. Here is my mods for now. 1_TriggerMaru_Overhaul_2-5 RSRDC_TMO_V502 RSRDC_V5xx_Patch1 I'm almost 100% realistic in my settings except map contacts and ext. views. I'm leaving Pearl in a Gato April 16th 1942. All of that said, is there any guides for idiots ? What do I need to learn? Is there an easy step by step for this? THANKS! edit** any thing I should add in terms of mods to make things easier?

02-20-13, 07:21 PM	#5
Shkval Planesman Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 192 Downloads: 54 Uploads: 0	Off course it works... you just need to know what are you doing... for the beginning I would add OTC mod to your list of modes... then I would learn the four bearing method... static and moving one... (later you will discover that moving one is better suited to fleet boats, than to U-boats, because of the keel mounted hydrophones). You will learn to use WO and his reports (bearing+distance= mark on the map, mark+mark= target's course/speed). You will also learn to use hydrophone and sonar in bad weather (later radar) for "blind shooting" ... measuring speed...i.e. practice, practice, and MORE practice... there are lots of tutorials on this subject on youtube and on this forum... just be persistent... for example my own personal record was hydrophone "blind" shot at 7.5 km with 3 torpedoes salvo, each one was a hit, bow, middle and stern in SH3 GWX and a few more mods. It's not easy, but when you get a grasp of procedures you will feel all the power of the submarine deadly stealth... __________________ Come closer... and die.

02-20-13, 08:39 PM	#8
Carrollsue Old man of the Sea Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Imus, Philippenes Posts: 58 Downloads: 1288 Uploads: 0	Midlen I have being playing this game (SH up to 4) for a long time now and just started to use manual, first got the OTC and then though reading, trying it out, MORE reading and trying it out, asking questions and getting great responds back….I can now say that that I’m somewhere between poor-good range ( we call it midlen), but love it! Have fun!

02-20-13, 04:56 PM	#2
Simmy Planesman Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 180 Downloads: 187 Uploads: 0	Good luck to you. I have tried, but with the different mods there seems to be no one good solution. I would like to refine the actual TDC method but no one seems to agree as to what works best. Then there are the methods that don't involve the TDC at all. I was given two different files that were suppose to make the TDC work so as to make the left dial turnable for setting the AoB. But of course that didn't work. I have never seen anything as screwed up as the manual targeting system of this game. If anyone has a method, that I haven't already tried I would take a shot at that.

02-20-13, 06:42 PM	#3
fastfed Grey Wolf Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 786 Downloads: 254 Uploads: 0	Wait..what?? Are you saying most people don't use ,manual targeting??? I thought I was the minority using auto targeting and now you're saying its broken ??

02-20-13, 08:28 PM	#7
fastfed Grey Wolf Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 786 Downloads: 254 Uploads: 0	I found this tutorial , seems to be pretty popular http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/down...o=file&id=1647 Is that a good one? I'm going to print it out and put it in a little booklet I kind of get it.. looks like I'm entering the data and the tdc computer kind of figures it out.. I remember in many books that the Americans TDC was better than the Germans at the time?