Pucker'd me RIGHT up.

jmurph · 12-28-12, 02:44 AM

Running some practice runs using the O'Kane method, everything is going great and you guys are a WEALTH of information.

So here I am, all set-up on my 90 degree track to the targets coarse, range is around 3000-3500yd or so and I'm putzing along at 1/3 at periscope and silent running. Too easy ... enemy speed 5kts, heading about 182.

Scope up every 3min to verify my track on him ... all is good.

He crosses the line and i hit the plunger 4 times (shooting to see if where I aim is where they hit)

Torp 1 - 1st mast, 2 - bridge 3 - funnel 4 - 2nd mast.

All torps away, some three minutes later or so, 1 hits where aimed, so does 2 and 4 .... but I noticed there was nothing from 3. I thought dud ... but ...

I goto the attack map and there's this green pecker running circles over my head. Thank GOD I was at periscope depth, I had them set to run around 15ft (enemy keel was 24ft or so.)

So my only question is, no crew member alerted me, and I was non-the-wiser till i checked the attack map. This normal?

TMO 2.5 is amazing.

Cheers and Happy Holidays from Afghanistan!

TorpX · 12-28-12, 03:34 AM

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Originally Posted by jmurph

So my only question is, no crew member alerted me, and I was non-the-wiser till i checked the attack map. This normal?

Cheers and Happy Holidays from Afghanistan!

If by normal, you mean, do circle runners happen often, then no.

If by normal, you mean, do you not get automatic warnings, then yes.

And, Merry Christmas and Happy New Year from Illinois and Subsim!

Armistead · 12-28-12, 01:54 PM

You're lucky it didn't hit you at scope depth, it can happen...I know. If scope depth is 56ft, the height of a sub is about 25-27, so depending on the depth of your torps, not to mention if they run deep....boom.
I've set torps at 10 ft and had circle runners hit right in the bulkhead at scope depth. I've also found if you're running at 1-2 knots, it usually places you right in the path. Seems I have more problem with M18's later war doing circles.

It stinks your sonarman won't call them out, sometimes it helps to take a quick glance at the attack map after you shoot to see where your torps are or dive down another 20 ft.

merc4ulfate · 12-28-12, 11:57 PM

I have had a few crazy Ivan fish before. The last one I had I ran a test. I surfaced and let it hit me. It was a dud. I thought purhaps it had not ran long enough to arm. I just wanted to see what happened.

I'm pretty much like that with everything ... Do something and lets see what happens. LOL

TorpX · 12-29-12, 12:13 AM

I guess you haven't seen the posts of people who have been sunk by the circle runners. In RL, Tang was lost for sure because of a CR, and I think at least one other sub. Before the war, the USN torpedos (Mk 14, I think) had a anti-circle running mechanism. However, it was eliminated for unknown reasons. It was a very unfortunate decision.

troopie · 12-29-12, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by TorpX

I guess you haven't seen the posts of people who have been sunk by the circle runners. In RL, Tang was lost for sure because of a CR, and I think at least one other sub. Before the war, the USN torpedos (Mk 14, I think) had a anti-circle running mechanism. However, it was eliminated for unknown reasons. It was a very unfortunate decision.

So, do you think IRL the sonarman would have been aware of circle runners? Seems quite possible.

12-28-12, 02:44 AM	#1
jmurph Bilge Rat Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 1 Downloads: 53 Uploads: 0	Pucker'd me RIGHT up. Running some practice runs using the O'Kane method, everything is going great and you guys are a WEALTH of information. So here I am, all set-up on my 90 degree track to the targets coarse, range is around 3000-3500yd or so and I'm putzing along at 1/3 at periscope and silent running. Too easy ... enemy speed 5kts, heading about 182. Scope up every 3min to verify my track on him ... all is good. He crosses the line and i hit the plunger 4 times (shooting to see if where I aim is where they hit) Torp 1 - 1st mast, 2 - bridge 3 - funnel 4 - 2nd mast. All torps away, some three minutes later or so, 1 hits where aimed, so does 2 and 4 .... but I noticed there was nothing from 3. I thought dud ... but ... I goto the attack map and there's this green pecker running circles over my head. Thank GOD I was at periscope depth, I had them set to run around 15ft (enemy keel was 24ft or so.) So my only question is, no crew member alerted me, and I was non-the-wiser till i checked the attack map. This normal? TMO 2.5 is amazing. Cheers and Happy Holidays from Afghanistan!

12-28-12, 01:54 PM	#3
Armistead Rear Admiral Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: on the Dan Posts: 10,880 Downloads: 364 Uploads: 0	You're lucky it didn't hit you at scope depth, it can happen...I know. If scope depth is 56ft, the height of a sub is about 25-27, so depending on the depth of your torps, not to mention if they run deep....boom. I've set torps at 10 ft and had circle runners hit right in the bulkhead at scope depth. I've also found if you're running at 1-2 knots, it usually places you right in the path. Seems I have more problem with M18's later war doing circles. It stinks your sonarman won't call them out, sometimes it helps to take a quick glance at the attack map after you shoot to see where your torps are or dive down another 20 ft. __________________ You see my dog don't like people laughing. He gets the crazy idea you're laughing at him. Now if you apologize like I know you're going to, I might convince him that you really didn't mean it.

12-28-12, 11:57 PM	#4
merc4ulfate DILLIGAF Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: florida Posts: 2,058 Downloads: 210 Uploads: 0	I have had a few crazy Ivan fish before. The last one I had I ran a test. I surfaced and let it hit me. It was a dud. I thought purhaps it had not ran long enough to arm. I just wanted to see what happened. I'm pretty much like that with everything ... Do something and lets see what happens. LOL

12-29-12, 12:13 AM	#5
TorpX Silent Hunter Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 3,975 Downloads: 153 Uploads: 11	I guess you haven't seen the posts of people who have been sunk by the circle runners. In RL, Tang was lost for sure because of a CR, and I think at least one other sub. Before the war, the USN torpedos (Mk 14, I think) had a anti-circle running mechanism. However, it was eliminated for unknown reasons. It was a very unfortunate decision.