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Old 12-21-12, 12:50 AM   #1
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Default S-Boat battery recharge rate

Something has been bugging me about the S-Boats in this game...
It can only recharge about 25% of the batteries in 12 hours?
Is this a historical figure or simply a mistake in the game?
I guess its plausible since this is WWI technology we're talking about.
Either way it makes for very difficult management of daytime underwater navigating, being limited to only 1.5 knots.
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Old 12-21-12, 01:28 AM   #2
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Should be about right. The S class has 2 engines, compared to newer class subs that have 4. Surface, you only have one 600hp motor charging batteries.
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Old 12-21-12, 02:03 AM   #3
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I've had similer complaints about the S-boat (with RFB). I don't think this was really intended or historical, but rather just another aspect of Ubi's sloppy game design.


Ducimus confronted this issue in his modding and posted some of what he learned about the battery issue. I can't recall the details, but IIRC, the game works in such a way as it takes a certain amount of time to recharge a battery to a given capacity. So, you can mod the battery to double the capacity, but it will take twice as long to fully recharge. If you change the battery to half the capacity, it will recharge twice as fast (but you only have half the capacity!!!). In other words, the most important elements of this is hard coded making everything a compromise.

When I patrol, I will usually submerge and run at 1 or 1.5 kts and limit my battery use to the greatest degree possible. Either that or remain on the surface.

Honestly, I don't know what the actual battery/engine performance of the S-class was. There doesn't seem to be detailed technical data available.



PS here, I found it:

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...ght=recharging
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Old 12-21-12, 09:47 AM   #4
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I don't think this was really intended or historical, but rather just another aspect of Ubi's sloppy game design.
As I recall, the devs weren't planning on having the S-boat at all. It was added as an afterthought after enough players complained about it. It didn't have near the development time as the other subs.

As I recall.
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Old 12-21-12, 01:41 PM   #5
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yep, the s-boat was like a cheat in the stock game and its actually much easier then what reality was for them so things like damage levels, speed, range, and battery life is almost a cheat for them.

this is why i created my s-boat mod to make them accurately represent a 20 year old boat that was rusty and fragile and i think i got it pretty darn close the being a very realistic experience in the full range of things even thou the game doesnt let you be able to mod everything you would like.

if you want to see a realistic version then try my s-boat mod and then you will have a better idea how easy they are in stock game
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Old 12-22-12, 12:36 AM   #6
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As I recall, the devs weren't planning on having the S-boat at all. It was added as an afterthought after enough players complained about it. It didn't have near the development time as the other subs.

As I recall.
Hmmm... I'm not surprised. The interiors are all the same, aren't they?
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Old 12-22-12, 03:37 PM   #7
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if you would like more info on S Boat's and other's please go to this link

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=197714
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Old 12-23-12, 01:21 AM   #8
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if you would like more info on S Boat's and other's please go to this link
I poked around the Pigboats.com site. In one of the photo captions they said this:
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This view looking aft shows the torpedo storage rack more clearly. The submarine carried a total of fourteen torpedoes. Four of them were in the tubes and ten in the room. Two each on each of the lower wider brackets and one each on the top shorter bracket. Bunks can be seen tilted up in the after end of the room The torpedo loading skid can be seen on the top brace on the right side of the photo. ...
I don't recall reading this before. Can anyone confirm this?
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Old 12-22-12, 03:59 PM   #9
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Hmmm... I'm not surprised. The interiors are all the same, aren't they?
I think S-Boats have their own unique interior in SH4. There are no crew stations in the conning tower either, unlike in the Fleet Boats.
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