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Old 10-17-12, 05:32 AM   #1
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I just read an article about this report by Human Rights Watch about the death of Gaddafi.

These people are so out of touch with reality it boggles the mind.

The killing of Gadaffi and his guards is obviously a war crime... I mean seriously?
I'd say it was the work of an angry mob and saved plenty of dollars that would've been wasted on trials. If they killed innocents in that convoy, the people responsible should be tried as murderers but not war criminals, guess it'll be hard to find witnesses tho.

I've got to say I don't have the time to read the full 58-page report as I'm at work, so maybe I'm completely wrong.

you can get it here http://www.hrw.org/reports/2012/10/16/death-dictator-0
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Old 10-17-12, 05:48 AM   #2
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The killing of Gadaffi and his guards is obviously a war crime... I mean seriously?
Yes seriously, without a doubt, no question about it.
Do you have a problem with the definitions?

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If they killed innocents in that convoy, the people responsible should be tried as murderers but not war criminals
It doesn't matter if the executed people were innocent or guilty, summary execution of prisoners is still a war crime.
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Old 10-17-12, 06:32 AM   #3
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International humanitarian law provides a number of fundamental protections for noncombatants (which includes civilians as well as captured combatants, those who have clearly indicated an intention to surrender, and former combatants unable to fight because of wounds or illness). It prohibits violence against such persons, particularly murder, cruel treatment and torture, as well as outrages against their personal dignity and degrading and humiliating treatment.

The prohibition against the extrajudicial killing of captured combatants, or combatants placed hors de combat [link by Hottentot] because of their injuries or other reasons, is considered a fundamental principle of customary international law. Common Article 3 of the Geneva Conventions prohibits "violence to life and person, particularly murder of all kinds" of civilians as well as persons placed hors de combat. Murder is also specified as a war crime under the Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court with respect to both international and internal armed conflict.
I'd say they are pretty clear on their legal arguments. You don't have to agree with them, but if you want to call them out of touch with reality, then it's these lines you should be refuting with something similar, IMHO.
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I'd say they are pretty clear on their legal arguments.
Plus for good measure Daffys son Saif is supposed to be up on charges as a war criminal in the ICC for....summary execution of prisoners(amongst other war crimes).
Maybe he will say he was an angry mob and was saving time and money on trials
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Plus for good measure Daffys son Saif is supposed to be up on charges as a war criminal in the ICC for....summary execution of prisoners(amongst other war crimes).
Maybe he will say he was an angry mob and was saving time and money on trials
Potential problem being the ICC might agree that as some form of defence
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Potential problem being the ICC might agree that as some form of defence
Pleading insanity?
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