New SH3 player, loving it! just a few questions

[jscharpf]

I just purchased SH3 and I have to say I've only made it through the first Navigation lesson and I'm LOVING this game!
LOL I feel like I'm, what 8 years behind lol!

It's great that all you good people did all the hard work, debugging, modding, etc.. for those of us coming around this late.

Anyway, the only other sub sim I played was Aces of the Deep years ago.

So, I purchased SH3 and decided to apply the Living Silent Hunter 5.1 add on. I didn't want to get crazy with add on's yet. I downloaded this as well as GWX(?) but I will try this for a while first.

Anyway I do have a couple of questions:
1) Menu music vs. Gramaphone. I downloaded a bunch of ogg files so I can have some cool old music playing, but it seems that the game menu music never stops. I enjoy listening to the menu music but I would like it to stop once I decide to play the Grammaphone. I don't understand the four symbols that show up, especially the one on the left. There is map looking thing with an arrow.. then what looks like a reverse, then stop, then forward. Where does it explain these buttons? Can I have both the Grammaphone music AND the "dramatic music" that seems to show up when I move around?

2) I'm a beginner but I always like to play sims in "realistic" mode. I decided to set everything to historical 100%, then I changed the following:
External view: I will probably turn this off sooner or later, but I just like to enjoy the cool view occasionally.
Allow assistance (or advice) for the fire control computer thingy lol.
While I enjoy entering my own values and trying to determine the AOB, range, velocity, etc.. with the LH3 addon, it seems the ID manual is a little messed up, so I need assistance ONLY with identifying ships. I will still enter data manually.


What do you think of this? I am taking the lessons now. I'm NOT concerned about having it too difficult and getting my butt handed to me, I just enjoy the simulation and I don't want to run with training wheels.

Any suggestions for a beginner other than just go practice?

[Sailor Steve]

WELCOME ABOARD!

Originally Posted by jscharpf

I just purchased SH3 and I have to say I've only made it through the first Navigation lesson and I'm LOVING this game!
LOL I feel like I'm, what 8 years behind lol!

I've had the game since it was new, and I start over every time a new mod I like comes out. I've never progressed beyond 1940. You're not that for behind.

Anyway, the only other sub sim I played was Aces of the Deep years ago.

And I still play that one as well.

So, I purchased SH3 and decided to apply the Living Silent Hunter 5.1 add on. I didn't want to get crazy with add on's yet. I downloaded this as well as GWX(?) but I will try this for a while first.

And you made a good choice. GWX provides the most rounded, complete experience, in my opinion anyway, but LSH3 is quite good.

1) Menu music vs. Gramaphone. I downloaded a bunch of ogg files so I can have some cool old music playing, but it seems that the game menu music never stops. I enjoy listening to the menu music but I would like it to stop once I decide to play the Grammaphone. I don't understand the four symbols that show up, especially the one on the left. There is map looking thing with an arrow.. then what looks like a reverse, then stop, then forward. Where does it explain these buttons? Can I have both the Grammaphone music AND the "dramatic music" that seems to show up when I move around?

I went into the 'Sound' folder and deleted all the mood music. They wanted a "movie" experience, and I wanted a realistic experience. I don't seem to have music following me around in my life, and neither did they.

Just my opinion, of course.

2) I'm a beginner but I always like to play sims in "realistic" mode. I decided to set everything to historical 100%, then I changed the following:

For the most part they aren't so much "realism" levels as "difficulty" levels. In some ways the game is harder than it was in real life.

External view: I will probably turn this off sooner or later, but I just like to enjoy the cool view occasionally.

Same here. It is nice to see what you can, and to take pictures of it.

Allow assistance (or advice) for the fire control computer thingy lol.
While I enjoy entering my own values and trying to determine the AOB, range, velocity, etc.. with the LH3 addon, it seems the ID manual is a little messed up, so I need assistance ONLY with identifying ships. I will still enter data manually.

I suck at advanced math, so I use the WE assistance, but in manual mode. It's a cheat, but if feels better than full auto mode.

Any suggestions for a beginner other than just go practice?

No. The good thing about a game is that you can "die" and still come back to learn from the experience. Gotta love it.

[jscharpf]

Thanks for the tips! I will remove the stupid mood music.
When I have to run silent I want to run silent lol!

However, I DO love the menu music

One thing for sure, I would not have made it on a submarine. I get seasick (for real) playing this game lol!

[Gerald]

[Woolfman]

That's great, you're gonna enjoy this game! Aces of the Deep...now that was a great game too! I played that for years myself and loved it. I can still remember an underwater escape against a hunter killer group that lasted about ten hours of game play or something close and surviving...I remember it well because in AOD (if my memory serves me well) we couldn't save when we were underwater; so we had to tough it out, right?

Anyways, there's a pretty good crowd here...i'm not part of the welcoming committee but, welcome.

woolfman

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by Woolfman

...i'm not part of the welcoming committee but, welcome.

There is no "official" committee. You get the badge by spending a lot of time welcoming people.

[Vipre]

Anyway I do have a couple of questions:
1) Menu music vs. Gramaphone. I downloaded a bunch of ogg files so I can have some cool old music playing, but it seems that the game menu music never stops. I enjoy listening to the menu music but I would like it to stop once I decide to play the Grammaphone. I don't understand the four symbols that show up, especially the one on the left. There is map looking thing with an arrow.. then what looks like a reverse, then stop, then forward. Where does it explain these buttons? Can I have both the Grammaphone music AND the "dramatic music" that seems to show up when I move around?

"I don't understand the four symbols that show up, especially the one on the left. There is map looking thing with an arrow.. then what looks like a reverse, then stop, then forward."

Those would be "Play", "Previous track", "Stop", and "Next Track".

The "menu music" stops when you click the gramophone's play button and stays off til you click stop. Also there is an option setting that turns the menu/in-game music off leaving only the gramophone as an option. Seems easier to uncheck that than go deleting stuff.

[Jimbuna]

Welcome to SubSim jscharpf

[Red Heat]

Welcome to wolfpack...

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by Vipre

Those would be "Play", "Previous track", "Stop", and "Next Track".

D'OH! I didn't even realize what he was talking about!

Also there is an option setting that turns the menu/in-game music off leaving only the gramophone as an option. Seems easier to uncheck that than go deleting stuff.

As you say, that option also turns of the Menu music. I've long used the Das Boot Sound Mod, which replaces the Menu music with the sounds from the scene in the movie in which they're walking through the sub pen. I love hearing that scene while I'm getting ready to go on patrol. As for the rest, deleting it only takes fifteen seconds and it's gone forever, which is fine by me.

[Vipre]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

As you say, that option also turns of the Menu music. I've long used the Das Boot Sound Mod, which replaces the Menu music with the sounds from the scene in the movie in which they're walking through the sub pen. I love hearing that scene while I'm getting ready to go on patrol.

Oh good point, I hadn't considered wanting the menu music but not the in-game. Going to look up that Das Boot mod as well.

[Woolfman]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

There is no "official" committee. You get the badge by spending a lot of time welcoming people.

ahhhh...

woolfman