A Noobs Observations/questions.

Shredd27 · 08-02-12, 11:20 PM

First off since this is my first post,.. Hello subsim community. Secondly, I applaud the efforts you guys have put into SH4 in particular in order to make it a more playable/enjoyable/realistic experience. All this is really cool to see!

Before I get to my question a little background. I'm not really new to the SH series. A long long time ago I bought the original MS-dos SH and thoroughly LOVED it. I didn't follow the series closely after that as I'm not very interested in the Atlantic side of things. So I didn't get any other titles till I saw SH4 which I jumped on IMMEDIATELY! This was sometime during early 2008. Some of it felt like and reminded me of the original BUT it was so buggy and quirky that I quickly lost interest. Last week I was going thru some of my old titles and ran across SH4 again so I thought I'd give it another try. Well this time has been a bit different since I've figured a few things out on how to get mods into my 1.4 version. This is a credit to all the work/love you guys have put into making SH4 as good as it can be. So once again, Thank You!

Now, my big thing is realistic environments and I've got a couple of mods that address some things in this regard (that look great for what they do btw),. BUT,. I've yet to see a (literally) HUGE environmental issue addressed. (forgive me if I just haven't found it yet) Has anyone else noticed the gargantuan size of the prehistoric palm trees that line the channel in/out of Pearl Harbor? Or is it just that those buildings/towns are scale models to throw off the enemy somehow? Or,. (here's the important one) does anyone care?

My hope is that now that I've pointed it out, it'll bother enough other people so that someone will do something about it.

I know that there are many more important aspects that deserve priority, but this is one of those issues that speaks to polish/realism and I want SH4 to be as realistic as possible. Reply's requested. Anyone else?

Armistead · 08-03-12, 01:12 AM

Have no clue what mods you're using, most of us use one of the env mods and all supermods have an env. mod included. You mentioned a few mods, so not sure what you're doing. As far as trees, the texture isn't as bad as they look, I think more to do with an old game engine, plus your video card and settings can have great effect, but most of us aren't bothered by them. They're few rock and sand mods that help the look of land.

These trees aren't close up, but not too bad, few of us get close to them anyway out in the ocean.

Shredd27 · 08-03-12, 04:36 AM

That is by far the best looking water I've seen. I'm sure you probably have 1.5 though. For the moment I'm stuck with 1.4 and here I'm going to post a screen pic I just took a little while ago using the last TMO mod available for 1.4. It's cool being able to move about the ship kind of like the free camera but,. I didn't hear any diesel engines running and the textures are nowhere near as good as yours. As far as hardware goes,. I've got a geForce 8400 GS video card w/512mb ram. System has 8gb ram but only sees 4 of it since I'm still running 32bit Win/XP Pro.

So tell me,. since when are palm trees WAY taller than 3-4 story buildings OR tower cranes?

Sailor Steve · 08-03-12, 08:58 AM

I had thought someone did a smaller trees mod for SH4, but I can't seem to find it anywhere. I'll keep looking.

08-03-12, 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

I had thought someone did a smaller trees mod for SH4, but I can't seem to find it anywhere. I'll keep looking.

i think that was sober

Sailor Steve · 08-03-12, 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Webster

i think that was sober

Sober has put up a lot of his mods here at Subsim. 'Better Trees For SH5' was there, but nothing for SH4. I'm hoping someone out there has a copy.

Shredd27 · 08-03-12, 12:03 PM

Thank you very much Sailor Steve! I've continued looking as well.

08-02-12, 11:20 PM	#1
Shredd27 Watch Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 24 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	A Noobs Observations/questions. First off since this is my first post,.. Hello subsim community. Secondly, I applaud the efforts you guys have put into SH4 in particular in order to make it a more playable/enjoyable/realistic experience. All this is really cool to see! Before I get to my question a little background. I'm not really new to the SH series. A long long time ago I bought the original MS-dos SH and thoroughly LOVED it. I didn't follow the series closely after that as I'm not very interested in the Atlantic side of things. So I didn't get any other titles till I saw SH4 which I jumped on IMMEDIATELY! This was sometime during early 2008. Some of it felt like and reminded me of the original BUT it was so buggy and quirky that I quickly lost interest. Last week I was going thru some of my old titles and ran across SH4 again so I thought I'd give it another try. Well this time has been a bit different since I've figured a few things out on how to get mods into my 1.4 version. This is a credit to all the work/love you guys have put into making SH4 as good as it can be. So once again, Thank You! Now, my big thing is realistic environments and I've got a couple of mods that address some things in this regard (that look great for what they do btw),. BUT,. I've yet to see a (literally) HUGE environmental issue addressed. (forgive me if I just haven't found it yet) Has anyone else noticed the gargantuan size of the prehistoric palm trees that line the channel in/out of Pearl Harbor? Or is it just that those buildings/towns are scale models to throw off the enemy somehow? Or,. (here's the important one) does anyone care? My hope is that now that I've pointed it out, it'll bother enough other people so that someone will do something about it. I know that there are many more important aspects that deserve priority, but this is one of those issues that speaks to polish/realism and I want SH4 to be as realistic as possible. Reply's requested. Anyone else?

08-03-12, 08:58 AM	#4
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	I had thought someone did a smaller trees mod for SH4, but I can't seem to find it anywhere. I'll keep looking. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

08-03-12, 01:12 AM	#2
Armistead Rear Admiral Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: on the Dan Posts: 10,880 Downloads: 364 Uploads: 0	Have no clue what mods you're using, most of us use one of the env mods and all supermods have an env. mod included. You mentioned a few mods, so not sure what you're doing. As far as trees, the texture isn't as bad as they look, I think more to do with an old game engine, plus your video card and settings can have great effect, but most of us aren't bothered by them. They're few rock and sand mods that help the look of land. These trees aren't close up, but not too bad, few of us get close to them anyway out in the ocean.

08-03-12, 04:36 AM	#3
Shredd27 Watch Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 24 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	That is by far the best looking water I've seen. I'm sure you probably have 1.5 though. For the moment I'm stuck with 1.4 and here I'm going to post a screen pic I just took a little while ago using the last TMO mod available for 1.4. It's cool being able to move about the ship kind of like the free camera but,. I didn't hear any diesel engines running and the textures are nowhere near as good as yours. As far as hardware goes,. I've got a geForce 8400 GS video card w/512mb ram. System has 8gb ram but only sees 4 of it since I'm still running 32bit Win/XP Pro. So tell me,. since when are palm trees WAY taller than 3-4 story buildings OR tower cranes?

08-03-12, 12:03 PM	#7
Shredd27 Watch Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 24 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	Thank you very much Sailor Steve! I've continued looking as well.