CTD hitting "P" key and reaching around 21 feet. Solution?

Tempest555 · 06-09-12, 08:40 PM

I narrowed down an issue that is keeping me from playing Silent Hunter IV Gold (patched to 1.5) on my HP new computer. It's the only game on their now.
I hit the "P" Key and when I get to around 21 ft-I get a CTD.
Only mod is the 4 gig patch I got here (it CTD before I installed that.)
All my drivers are up to date. And I installed the game per instructions on the strings and cleaned my registry manually of Ubi SHIV entries when uninstall

I had SHIV on an XP machine before in the past and no problems with this command. But it wasn't patched to 1.5 like the disc.
CTD happens with and without disc in CD/DVD tray.

System specs.
HP p6-2120tIntel(R) Pentium(R) CPU G630 @ 2.70GHz
4 Gigs of RAM
Win 7 64 bit
AMD Radeon HD 7450

It's not a gaming rig but perfectly adequate for this game.
Any suggestions on fixing the "P" key issue?
Like I said -I did not see this issue come up in a past post-but no solution was offered.
It certainly didn't happen when I played it on XP years ago.

doulos05 · 06-09-12, 08:43 PM

Are you following the Windows 7 install instructions? Installing it in it's own folder in the C:/ drive (Like C:/SH4 or something like that).

Hinrich Schwab · 06-09-12, 09:31 PM

The only thing I can think of is a corrupted install. Have you already tried reinstalling the game?

Tempest555 · 06-10-12, 04:05 AM

First thanks for getting back.

I had installed the game in C/Program/Ubisoft, C/Program (86)/Ubisoft and even C/Ubisoft and it was always the same crash at always the same P key stroke and 21 ft depth. Hmmm Didn't make sense-but I had a hunch it was a hardware problem. What my new computer doesn't have but my old legacy XP machine has is an after market sound card.
So I unchecked in Sound Options the 'Realistic Sound Travel Time' box. (I had always enabled that in many re-installations.)

No more crashes.

Fingers crossed and touch wood.

Hylander_1314 · 06-10-12, 07:40 AM

Not familiar with Win7, as I don't have it yet, but something I have been doing since the old XP days, and it has helped in the past, is to add all my game, 3D model programs, and art programs to the list in the Data Execution Prevention section in the Windows System Properties.

This is how I get there on Vista, so I don't know if it is the same for Win7.

To get there,

Right click on My Computer

The window that opens has 4 options on the upper left side. Click on Advanced Options

A System Properties window will open.

There Advanced tab across the top should be showing. There are 5 tabs, Advanced is in the middle, click on it if it isn't.

Under Performance, the first options, click the Settings button to the right.

Another sub window should open with Visual Effects, Advanced, and Data Execution Prevention.

At the top are 2 options,

Choose the one that says,

Turn on DEP for all programs and services except those I select:

In the window under the options, there are Add, and Remove buttons, click on add, and navigate to game .exe files or other programs. DEP has been a pain in the patoot since the XP days.

But it was discovered with XP, that you could go to the Windows boot.ini file, and shut it off permanently, but M$ left the option off Vista, and I'm sure they did the same with 7.

With DEP disabled, everything on the computer ran smoother, and it reduced crashes by 90+%.

But if you add the game .exe files to the list, it should help, and may let you restore your sound to where you wanted it. Even though I built this rig, back in '08 although, it has onboard sound, and hasn't given me a lick of trouble. I avoided getting a dedicated soundcard because there were issue with S-Blasters causing crashes so I waited, and honestly, I found I really didn't need one. I have Dolby 7.1 capabilities with this board, and Core2 Extreme quad processor, and 8 gigs of ram, with 2 way SLi, so I'm good.

Hope this helps some!

Tempest555 · 06-10-12, 04:56 PM

Okay this morning I did the changes in Win 7 per your instructions-not to hard to maneuver though slightly different from XP. But you can do what you suggested with DEP.

I still CTD to desktop at periscope depth when I checked in Sound Options the 'Realistic Sound Travel Time' box.
When I unchecked it no CTD occurred. I suppose if I had an aftermarket soundcard I could use this 'Realistic Sound Travel Time' . But disabling it isn't a showstopper.
But I did leave in place the changes you suggested in Win 7 and will apply them to my XP machine since I would have to agree with you disabling DEP in games on the computer. Thanks.

06-09-12, 08:40 PM	#1
Tempest555 Electrician's Mate Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 137 Downloads: 166 Uploads: 0	CTD hitting "P" key and reaching around 21 feet. Solution? I narrowed down an issue that is keeping me from playing Silent Hunter IV Gold (patched to 1.5) on my HP new computer. It's the only game on their now. I hit the "P" Key and when I get to around 21 ft-I get a CTD. Only mod is the 4 gig patch I got here (it CTD before I installed that.) All my drivers are up to date. And I installed the game per instructions on the strings and cleaned my registry manually of Ubi SHIV entries when uninstall I had SHIV on an XP machine before in the past and no problems with this command. But it wasn't patched to 1.5 like the disc. CTD happens with and without disc in CD/DVD tray. System specs. HP p6-2120tIntel(R) Pentium(R) CPU G630 @ 2.70GHz 4 Gigs of RAM Win 7 64 bit AMD Radeon HD 7450 It's not a gaming rig but perfectly adequate for this game. Any suggestions on fixing the "P" key issue? Like I said -I did not see this issue come up in a past post-but no solution was offered. It certainly didn't happen when I played it on XP years ago.

06-09-12, 08:43 PM	#2
doulos05 Planesman Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 195 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	Are you following the Windows 7 install instructions? Installing it in it's own folder in the C:/ drive (Like C:/SH4 or something like that). __________________ *While troubleshooting a printer at work Me: "Do you want me to run the copies through again?" Boss: "Hold on, let me go get the alcohol first. Me:

06-10-12, 07:40 AM	#5
Hylander_1314 Sea Lord Join Date: May 2006 Location: 5 Miles Inland West Of Lake Huron Posts: 1,936 Downloads: 139 Uploads: 0	Not familiar with Win7, as I don't have it yet, but something I have been doing since the old XP days, and it has helped in the past, is to add all my game, 3D model programs, and art programs to the list in the Data Execution Prevention section in the Windows System Properties. This is how I get there on Vista, so I don't know if it is the same for Win7. To get there, Right click on My Computer The window that opens has 4 options on the upper left side. Click on Advanced Options A System Properties window will open. There Advanced tab across the top should be showing. There are 5 tabs, Advanced is in the middle, click on it if it isn't. Under Performance, the first options, click the Settings button to the right. Another sub window should open with Visual Effects, Advanced, and Data Execution Prevention. At the top are 2 options, Choose the one that says, Turn on DEP for all programs and services except those I select: In the window under the options, there are Add, and Remove buttons, click on add, and navigate to game .exe files or other programs. DEP has been a pain in the patoot since the XP days. But it was discovered with XP, that you could go to the Windows boot.ini file, and shut it off permanently, but M$ left the option off Vista, and I'm sure they did the same with 7. With DEP disabled, everything on the computer ran smoother, and it reduced crashes by 90+%. But if you add the game .exe files to the list, it should help, and may let you restore your sound to where you wanted it. Even though I built this rig, back in '08 although, it has onboard sound, and hasn't given me a lick of trouble. I avoided getting a dedicated soundcard because there were issue with S-Blasters causing crashes so I waited, and honestly, I found I really didn't need one. I have Dolby 7.1 capabilities with this board, and Core2 Extreme quad processor, and 8 gigs of ram, with 2 way SLi, so I'm good. Hope this helps some! __________________ A legislative act contrary to the Constitution is not law. -John Marshall Chief Justice of the Supreme Court ---------------------

06-09-12, 09:31 PM	#3
Hinrich Schwab Grey Wolf Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 908 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 0	The only thing I can think of is a corrupted install. Have you already tried reinstalling the game?

06-10-12, 04:05 AM	#4
Tempest555 Electrician's Mate Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 137 Downloads: 166 Uploads: 0	First thanks for getting back. I had installed the game in C/Program/Ubisoft, C/Program (86)/Ubisoft and even C/Ubisoft and it was always the same crash at always the same P key stroke and 21 ft depth. Hmmm Didn't make sense-but I had a hunch it was a hardware problem. What my new computer doesn't have but my old legacy XP machine has is an after market sound card. So I unchecked in Sound Options the 'Realistic Sound Travel Time' box. (I had always enabled that in many re-installations.) No more crashes. Fingers crossed and touch wood.

06-10-12, 04:56 PM	#6
Tempest555 Electrician's Mate Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 137 Downloads: 166 Uploads: 0	Okay this morning I did the changes in Win 7 per your instructions-not to hard to maneuver though slightly different from XP. But you can do what you suggested with DEP. I still CTD to desktop at periscope depth when I checked in Sound Options the 'Realistic Sound Travel Time' box. When I unchecked it no CTD occurred. I suppose if I had an aftermarket soundcard I could use this 'Realistic Sound Travel Time' . But disabling it isn't a showstopper. But I did leave in place the changes you suggested in Win 7 and will apply them to my XP machine since I would have to agree with you disabling DEP in games on the computer. Thanks.