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Old 04-11-12, 01:46 AM   #1
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DUD without DUD on ?

Ok one thing that I did and saw was when I fired a torpedo at the ship (Fletcher Class DD) the torpedo came in at about 70 degrees port it hit the target and then.......................... no boom.

I was playing on low difficulty. How da hell did that happen?

The Destroyer's crew were having beer and celebrating until I fired another torpedo which they dodged but then the DD turned around and then boooooooooooooom. They went faster than the torpedo and yeah boom.
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Old 04-11-12, 03:19 AM   #2
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Not sure how the dud settings work in this sim, to be quite honest.

I've had them on since day one, but the only time I get one is when I make the mistake of trying to use the magnetics for a boom under the keel. I have yet to see that work, and I have fired full salvos at different depths in calm waters just to make sure. All duds. With impact pistol at 2-3 meters, though, they go boom every single time.

But the magnetics are utterly useless. Which is probably historically accurate since they didn't really become reliable until '41-'42. Still, just one, ONE detonation would be nice.
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Old 04-11-12, 06:42 AM   #3
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Do you mean it was actual dud torpedo (hits the ship alright, but just bounces off the hull without explosion) or premature explosion (explodes before hitting the sub)? I have NEVER ever seen a actual dud torpedo in SH 5 if imported SH 4 ships don't count. The premature explosions work just like they should (magnetic torpedoes explode before hitting the sub). Basic impact torpedoes don't cause premature explosions.

If you have witnessed a 100% pure DUD torpedo with SH 5 ship, that's breaking news and tells that there is somekind of dud system that works once in a lifetime. If so please tell all the details that you remember, I have spent weeks digging in to this matter...
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Old 04-11-12, 07:47 AM   #4
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If the target was really close there is a possibility the torp hadn't cleared its minimum range that is, it wasn't "armed" yet.



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Old 04-11-12, 05:11 PM   #5
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Do you mean it was actual dud torpedo (hits the ship alright, but just bounces off the hull without explosion) or premature explosion (explodes before hitting the sub)? I have NEVER ever seen a actual dud torpedo in SH 5 if imported SH 4 ships don't count. The premature explosions work just like they should (magnetic torpedoes explode before hitting the sub). Basic impact torpedoes don't cause premature explosions.

If you have witnessed a 100% pure DUD torpedo with SH 5 ship, that's breaking news and tells that there is somekind of dud system that works once in a lifetime. If so please tell all the details that you remember, I have spent weeks digging in to this matter...
Yes it actually bounced off and didn't blow up.


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If the target was really close there is a possibility the torp hadn't cleared its minimum range that is, it wasn't "armed" yet.



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I could be that, it was pretty damn close. I never got a chance to gauge the distance though
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Old 04-12-12, 07:00 AM   #6
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Yes it actually bounced off and didn't blow up.



I could be that, it was pretty damn close. I never got a chance to gauge the distance though
Yes, that is the most probable cause as the distance was so short. Just one more example that the actual torpedos work just right. It's something that is missing or different with the SH 5 ships that makes duds impossible.
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Old 04-12-12, 04:31 PM   #7
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when looking at torpedo not exploding issues dont forget:

if the angle is steep you can glance off the ship without detonating which looks like a dud but you just have too sharp an angle to strike the firing pin and the torpedo stops and sinks away. (in real life it should glance off and keep going)

also i have seen if the prop hits the side of the torp before the head hits the ship you get the same non explosion and the torpedo stops and sinks away
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I could be that, it was pretty damn close. I never got a chance to gauge the distance though
That's a possibility. The torp doesn't arm until about 300 meters if I remember correctly.
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