Email and web use 'to be monitored' under new laws

[MothBalls]

The government will be able to monitor the calls, emails, texts and website visits of everyone in the UK under new legislation set to be announced soon.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-17576745

Wow, just wow. You guys don't have laws to protect you from laws like this?

[Torplexed]

You already have posters like this up in Britain which seem to inadvertently invoke the Golden Age of totalitarianism. Looks like Big Brother is setting up shop.



George Orwell must be doing cartwheels in his grave.

[Platapus]

There is no way any government would ever abuse this. That would be wrong.

[krashkart]

Originally Posted by Platapus

There is no way any government would ever abuse this. That would be wrong.

Absolutely. They look out for us all the time, and would never try to take advantage of us.

[Oberon]

I, for one, welcome our new totalitarian overlords.

MUST OBEY...MUST OBEY...

I thought Britain had been doing this since the late 1980s anyway.

[Sailor Steve]

I see this as a good thing. Since there is no way the current staff of any country could possibly read everybody's mail, they'll need to hire a great many more workers. In fact they'll need to hire every single unemployed person in the country, and then start stealing employees from companies around the nation. It will probably be easier to pay companies to assign people to this work. Pretty soon we'll have the entire population spying on each other. What could be wrong with that? It will be the ultimate socialist paradise. If everyone works for the government then we all work for each other, and we all get along much better.

It wouldn't work here in the US, though. The states will want a piece of the action, and then we'd have the federal and state governments spying on each other. Not that they don't already.

[krashkart]

Originally Posted by Oberon

I, for one, welcome our new totalitarian overlords.

MUST OBEY...MUST OBEY...

[Platapus]

Originally Posted by krashkart

Absolutely. They look out for us all the time, and would never try to take advantage of us.

<clearing throat> ahem. If you have done nothing wrong, you have nothing to fear from your government. <did I say that correctly?>

[vienna]

<clearing throat> ahem. If you have done nothing wrong, you have nothing to fear from your government. <did I say that correctly?>

The governing body has determined you should show more conviction...

Or, perhaps, you are looking for a conviction?...

...

[krashkart]

Originally Posted by Platapus

<clearing throat> ahem. If you have done nothing wrong, you have nothing to fear from your government. <did I say that correctly?>

I've never done anything wrong. Honest.



(If that was a reference from a movie, Platapus, I think it sailed clear over my head. )

[mapuc]

Each time such a law are submitted and implemented, do not forget to send a thank you to Osama Bin Laden & Co.. Had it not been for him and his friends, all these laws on surveillance and restriction of our freedom probably not been reached.

Markus

[Egan]

Originally Posted by Torplexed

You already have posters like this up in Britain which seem to inadvertently invoke the Golden Age of totalitarianism. Looks like Big Brother is setting up shop.



George Orwell must be doing cartwheels in his grave.

That poster is awesome! I want one! Been to London a lot over the last few years but never seen one. It's ace!

Totalitarianism may be a great evil but the poster art is always sweet!

[vienna]

It wouldn't work here in the US, though. The states will want a piece of the action, and then we'd have the federal and state governments spying on each other. Not that they don't already.

Sorry, Steve...

Done deal:

The NSA Is Building the Country’s Biggest Spy Center (Watch What You Say)

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/201...nsadatacenter/

The information on page 5 regarding the breaking of encryption is really interesting and really concerning. If the NSA has found a way to enable real time decryption of "strong encryption", how soon afterward do the entities we don't want to have this capability also gain this technology. This sort of tech very rarely stays in-house. How long until someone, say China, Russia, the Mossad, get this and use it against us? Then there is the corporate world; think of how much they would like to have tech like this to get a leg up on their competition or to spy on consumers to aid in marketing. The prospect of what we now know as "privacy" is growing dimmer as days go by...

[krashkart]

Originally Posted by vienna

Sorry, Steve...

The information on page 5 regarding the breaking of encryption is really interesting and really concerning. If the NSA has found a way to enable real time decryption of "strong encryption", how soon afterward do the entities we don't want to have this capability also gain this technology. This sort of tech very rarely stays in-house. How long until someone, say China, Russia, the Mossad, get this and use it against us?

It doesn't take much to crack the government data safes here. How many times have we seen news stories about another break-in at JPL, Social Security, NASA, the Defense Department, etc? It leaves me thinking that the government is completely inept at protecting it's own interests on its own soil.

Then there is the corporate world; think of how much they would like to have tech like this to get a leg up on their competition or to spy on consumers to aid in marketing. The prospect of what we now know as "privacy" is growing dimmer as days go by...

Why do you think Google and Facebook are free to use? Nothing we do online these days as private citizens is safe from data mining... and for that matter have a look at how many people are drooling over things like Google Chrome. How many times in an average day does someone tell someone to use Google to find the information they're looking for? Anything you type into their search box gets stored and eventually packaged into targeted advertisements. They don't need to crack any crypto to be able to tell what's on our minds.