upgraded Oscar II SSGN

[MR. Wood]

http://translate.google.ru/translate...Fnews%2F519270

[Oberon]

Using an Oscar II as an intel boat? Bit big isn't it?

Still, good to see the girls getting a refit, they've done good work so far.

[Krauter]

Hmm.. Well according to the article, they state that armed with this new "Caliber" (?) missile system will make the new Oscars ideal for hitting European missile defence sites

The only reasonable option to use a boat - make it a striking boat, capable of engaging surface and surface objects. To do this, well suited launch of the "Caliber" with a range of up to 1.5 kilometers. With their help, "Antei" will be transformed into a Russian response to European missile defense - said, "Izvestia" Sivkov.

He recalled that the ground-range missiles such prohibited by the treaty on the elimination of intermediate-and shorter-range missiles, and sea - not, so the boat will ensure the defeat of any object on the defense throughout Northern Europe.

He also discards its use as an intelligence boat, or a mothership for saboteurs and such due to it being too noisy...

no good, because the boat is too noisy for modern conditions.

My knowledge of Russian submarine types has gotten shaky, the Boreis are SSBNs, what are these Tactical "Ash" Types? Akulas? Antei is Oscar II I believe and Varshavyanka would be... Improved Kilo?...

Vysotsky's predecessor as commander of the Navy, Admiral Vladimir Masorin said in an interview with "Izvestia" that the Navy needs at least four types of submarines, strategic "Borei" tactical "Ash", multi-functional "Antei" and diesel "Varshavyanka."

[TLAM Strike]

Originally Posted by Krauter

My knowledge of Russian submarine types has gotten shaky, the Boreis are SSBNs, what are these Tactical "Ash" Types? Akulas? Antei is Oscar II I believe and Varshavyanka would be... Improved Kilo?...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yasen_class_submarine

Varshavyanka (the Woman from Warsaw) is the 636 Kilo Imp.

[Krauter]

Originally Posted by TLAM Strike

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yasen_class_submarine

Varshavyanka (the Woman from Warsaw) is the 636 Kilo Imp.

Thanks TLAM,

To my knowledge the Russians are still using for:

SSBN: Delta IVs (Typhoons phased out, I think they had 2 left in service for tests last time I looked) and the new Boreis. Did they also still have Delta IIIs in use too?

SSNs From what I knew they were still using Victor IIIs, Akulas and Alfas and Sierras. Has this Graney sub entered service yet? How does it compare to LAi's and Virginias?

SSGN: Mostly Oscars and Charlies yes?

SSKs, Kilo, Kilo Imp. and didn't they have another sub on the drawing board? Lada or something like that?

[TLAM Strike]

Originally Posted by Krauter

Thanks TLAM,

To my knowledge the Russians are still using for:

SSBN: Delta IVs (Typhoons phased out, I think they had 2 left in service for tests last time I looked) and the new Boreis. Did they also still have Delta IIIs in use too?

SSNs From what I knew they were still using Victor IIIs, Akulas and Alfas and Sierras. Has this Graney sub entered service yet? How does it compare to LAi's and Virginias?

SSGN: Mostly Oscars and Charlies yes?

SSKs, Kilo, Kilo Imp. and didn't they have another sub on the drawing board? Lada or something like that?

Some Delta IIIs are still around as are all the Delta IVs. Alfas are retired, A few Victors and most of the Serras are arounds. The Yasen/Graney is still on sea trials. Compared to the Virgina its frikkin old. It was sitting in the shipyard for a decade so its not exactly cutting edge. Charlies are retired. They have one Lada operational, they have some upgraded Kilo in the works, and they got the Sarov class special projects boat.