Ouch! HMCS Corner Brook Damage

02-13-12, 06:32 PM

Looks like the Navy kept the extent of the damage pretty much in house.

CBC News

sidmo001 · 02-13-12, 06:45 PM

Next to he Sea King fiasco, the purchase of these Victoria class Subs has to be one of the biggest debacles in Canadian military history.

CCIP · 02-13-12, 06:49 PM

At the very least, the boats have had about the worst luck possible!

magicstix · 02-13-12, 07:05 PM

Guess the Canadians didn't learn anything from USS San Francisco...

CaptainHaplo · 02-13-12, 07:29 PM

Its really sad since these (originally Upholder class) were well designed boats. However, the design never really translated into the build. The boats really never got the full "Royal Navy" treatment upon commissioning - literally - the bugs never got worked out. Then they get decommissioned, sit in mothballs and finally get "recommissioned" many years later...

Within 3 years - Ursula - now Corner Brook - needed a refit. Still a design with "bugs" - and no offense to our Northern allies - but Canada doesn't have quite the naval tradition or know-how that the British do - so a lot of problems never got found and fixed.

4 boats - one catches fire due to a hatch being left open (not a bright move by our Canuck friends), Windsor is undergoing a refit that looks to be taking 6 yrs (as of now). Victoria suffered massive damage when Canadian naval personnel hooked up a generator they shouldn't have. And now Corner Brook is out of action due to an avoidable accident.

I have to say the Canadians seriously need to reconsider their desire to operate subs.... As of this point it doesn't look like the Canadians are properly trained to move on from the old Oberon Class - even though they are no longer in service.

sidmo001 · 02-13-12, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by CaptainHaplo

Its really sad since these (originally Upholder class) were well designed boats. However, the design never really translated into the build. The boats really never got the full "Royal Navy" treatment upon commissioning - literally - the bugs never got worked out. Then they get decommissioned, sit in mothballs and finally get "recommissioned" many years later...

Within 3 years - Ursula - now Corner Brook - needed a refit. Still a design with "bugs" - and no offense to our Northern allies - but Canada doesn't have quite the naval tradition or know-how that the British do - so a lot of problems never got found and fixed.

4 boats - one catches fire due to a hatch being left open (not a bright move by our Canuck friends), Windsor is undergoing a refit that looks to be taking 6 yrs (as of now). Victoria suffered massive damage when Canadian naval personnel hooked up a generator they shouldn't have. And now Corner Brook is out of action due to an avoidable accident.

I have to say the Canadians seriously need to reconsider their desire to operate subs.... As of this point it doesn't look like the Canadians are properly trained to move on from the old Oberon Class - even though they are no longer in service.

I've always been a proponent of the Canadian Navy going after an LHD or LPD fleet. With the amount of money the DND has sunk in to these 4 subs, we could of purchased a couple of Wasp Class LHD's, or a San Antonio LPD.

02-13-12, 06:32 PM	#1
Randomizer Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Ouch! HMCS Corner Brook Damage Looks like the Navy kept the extent of the damage pretty much in house. CBC News

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CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	At the very least, the boats have had about the worst luck possible! __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)

02-13-12, 07:29 PM	#5
CaptainHaplo Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 4,404 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 0	Its really sad since these (originally Upholder class) were well designed boats. However, the design never really translated into the build. The boats really never got the full "Royal Navy" treatment upon commissioning - literally - the bugs never got worked out. Then they get decommissioned, sit in mothballs and finally get "recommissioned" many years later... Within 3 years - Ursula - now Corner Brook - needed a refit. Still a design with "bugs" - and no offense to our Northern allies - but Canada doesn't have quite the naval tradition or know-how that the British do - so a lot of problems never got found and fixed. 4 boats - one catches fire due to a hatch being left open (not a bright move by our Canuck friends), Windsor is undergoing a refit that looks to be taking 6 yrs (as of now). Victoria suffered massive damage when Canadian naval personnel hooked up a generator they shouldn't have. And now Corner Brook is out of action due to an avoidable accident. I have to say the Canadians seriously need to reconsider their desire to operate subs.... As of this point it doesn't look like the Canadians are properly trained to move on from the old Oberon Class - even though they are no longer in service. __________________ Good Hunting! Captain Haplo

02-13-12, 06:45 PM	#2
sidmo001 Sailor man Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 46 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	Next to he Sea King fiasco, the purchase of these Victoria class Subs has to be one of the biggest debacles in Canadian military history.

02-13-12, 07:05 PM	#4
magicstix Captain Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Nuclear submarine under the North Pole Posts: 482 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	Guess the Canadians didn't learn anything from USS San Francisco...