We got scared

HunterICX · 01-27-12, 03:42 PM

I like the message it delivers, it makes you think.

HunterICX

Ducimus · 01-27-12, 04:41 PM

The religiously devout amongst us will probably disagree in all possible terms.

Oberon · 01-27-12, 05:05 PM

Indeed, I can foresee this thread going all different kinds of bad places, which is a shame because that is a very well put together video.

Dowly · 01-27-12, 05:28 PM

Extremely powerful video, Hunter.

Too bad there are those who will never change their view even little bit.
Humanity, IMHO, will always be divided because of religion.

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Originally Posted by Oberon

Indeed, I can foresee this thread going all different kinds of bad places, which is a shame because that is a very well put together video.

IMHO, it's good to have these discussions every once in awhile, it's just that no side are prepare to give in and it
turns to name calling.

Betonov · 01-27-12, 05:46 PM

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We were born through ingenuity and violence...

Kind of sums it up. An intro statement into a description of a human

Takeda Shingen · 01-27-12, 06:05 PM

At the same time the study of science, what the creator of this video refers to as 'enlightenment' has only resulted in more death and misery. Man went to the moon because he had to get there before his enemy. Man developed supersonic flight in order to attack his enemies at greater speed. Man developed clocks, navigation and methods of travel in order to edge his enemies out of the resource market. Nearly every technology or new science that we have to our credit has it's roots in the exploitation and desire of outright death to our enemies. I have no issue with the role that religion has played in mankind's misery, but to lay human nature at the foot of religion is a dishonest argument at best and smacks of an atheist with an axe to grind.

Pius XII didn't push for the development of the atomic bomb. It was Albert Einstein, who the video's author placed at the center of his collage of the enlightened, who pleaded with the US government to proceed with it's creation.

antikristuseke · 01-27-12, 05:50 PM

Name calling? On subsim? Surely not you ferret faced finnish bastid!

TLAM Strike · 01-27-12, 09:48 PM

We sort of had this discussion when talking about Frankenstein, the Romantic movement, science and the noble savage in class today.

My comment was basically the Romantics got it wrong, that without science we would be just beating each other over the heads with sticks. Science gave us bigger and better sticks; the good side? Occasionally someone uses that bigger and better stick to make a lever that moves the world.

Onkel Neal · 01-29-12, 02:46 AM

@ 6:18 pfft! Big deal, on the planet I came from, we have 8 senses and can see through time, Earthlings still have a long way to go.

TLAM Strike · 01-29-12, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

@ 6:18 pfft! Big deal, on the planet I came from, we have 8 senses and can see through time, Earthlings still have a long way to go.

In what star system might this planet be?

Why?

Dowly · 01-29-12, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by TLAM Strike

In what star system might this planet be?

Why?

Hah, just watched that episode last night.

Think this is my 4th time watching the whole series over, gotta say it's probably
the best Stargate series.

(not that there is any competition except for SG-1

)

Oberon · 01-29-12, 11:04 AM

Jacob: Come on, Sam. It can't be any harder than blowing up a sun.
Sam: You know, you blow up one sun and suddenly everyone expects you to walk on water.
[Alien control panel lights up.]
Sam: Next step, parting the Red Sea!

Takeda Shingen · 01-29-12, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by TLAM Strike

In what star system might this planet be?

Why?

Anyone else notice the irony of that video in a thread about the hope and promise of science?

u crank · 01-29-12, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

Anyone else notice the irony of that video in a thread about the hope and promise of science?

Yea.

Other options have been suggested.

TLAM Strike · 01-29-12, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

Anyone else notice the irony of that video in a thread about the hope and promise of science?

Just remember; there is only one spot at the top of the food chain, and technology implies belligerence.

01-27-12, 03:42 PM	#1
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TLAM Strike Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Rochester, New York Posts: 8,633 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 6	We sort of had this discussion when talking about Frankenstein, the Romantic movement, science and the noble savage in class today. My comment was basically the Romantics got it wrong, that without science we would be just beating each other over the heads with sticks. Science gave us bigger and better sticks; the good side? Occasionally someone uses that bigger and better stick to make a lever that moves the world. __________________

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Onkel Neal Born to Run Silent Join Date: Jan 1997 Location: Cougar Trap, Texas Posts: 21,385 Downloads: 541 Uploads: 224	@ 6:18 pfft! Big deal, on the planet I came from, we have 8 senses and can see through time, Earthlings still have a long way to go. __________________ SUBSIM - 26 Years on the Web

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Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	The religiously devout amongst us will probably disagree in all possible terms.

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Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Indeed, I can foresee this thread going all different kinds of bad places, which is a shame because that is a very well put together video.

01-27-12, 06:05 PM	#6
Takeda Shingen Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2000 Posts: 8,643 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	At the same time the study of science, what the creator of this video refers to as 'enlightenment' has only resulted in more death and misery. Man went to the moon because he had to get there before his enemy. Man developed supersonic flight in order to attack his enemies at greater speed. Man developed clocks, navigation and methods of travel in order to edge his enemies out of the resource market. Nearly every technology or new science that we have to our credit has it's roots in the exploitation and desire of outright death to our enemies. I have no issue with the role that religion has played in mankind's misery, but to lay human nature at the foot of religion is a dishonest argument at best and smacks of an atheist with an axe to grind. Pius XII didn't push for the development of the atomic bomb. It was Albert Einstein, who the video's author placed at the center of his collage of the enlightened, who pleaded with the US government to proceed with it's creation.

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antikristuseke Silent Hunter Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Estland Posts: 4,330 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	Name calling? On subsim? Surely not you ferret faced finnish bastid!

01-29-12, 11:04 AM	#12
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Jacob: Come on, Sam. It can't be any harder than blowing up a sun. Sam: You know, you blow up one sun and suddenly everyone expects you to walk on water. [Alien control panel lights up.] Sam: Next step, parting the Red Sea!