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Old 10-22-11, 01:01 AM   #1
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Yep, You heard right, Tea party Nation put out a memo or post on Oct 18th with the last line saying:
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I, an American small business owner, part of the class that produces the vast majority of real, wealth producing jobs in this country, hereby resolve that I will not hire a single person until this war against business and my country is stopped.
http://www.teapartynation.com/profil...es-against-the

I get it, you hate Obama...but you're really going to suggest business owners ought do do this...at the expense of the economy, the unemployed, and the american people just to spite Obama?
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Old 10-22-11, 01:23 AM   #2
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Yep, You heard right, Tea party Nation put out a memo or post on Oct 18th with the last line saying:

http://www.teapartynation.com/profil...es-against-the

I get it, you hate Obama...but you're really going to suggest business owners ought do do this...at the expense of the economy, the unemployed, and the american people just to spite Obama?
Actually it's probably more to spite the privileged, yet entitled yuppy white kids protesting in their anti-semitic, schizophrenic Occupy Wallstreet movement.
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Old 10-22-11, 03:43 AM   #3
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How very Randian.
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Old 10-22-11, 09:14 AM   #4
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Actually it's probably more to spite the privileged, yet entitled yuppy white kids protesting in their anti-semitic, schizophrenic Occupy Wallstreet movement.
No no, you're thinking of Occupy Wallgreens. Simple mistake.
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Old 10-22-11, 12:37 PM   #5
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Actually it's probably more to spite the privileged, yet entitled yuppy white kids protesting in their anti-semitic, schizophrenic Occupy Wallstreet movement.
You're talking about the 1% when you use words like yuppy, white, and entitled.
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Old 10-22-11, 12:41 PM   #6
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You may not like their message, but they all agree on what it is.
Maybe you missed the past couple of years and just bought a freshly minted myth.
Agreement is clearly lacking and as for coherence.....
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Again, I'm judging primarily on this particular 'call to action', which is by any definition incoherent and absurd. It has some limited measure of cohesion, which is to say it does follow some of the previous Tea Party rhetoric and makes sense grammatically, but in terms of coherence it makes no sense whatsoever. It's a collection of terms and slogans that I don't think the writers of that document even understand, judging by the way they use them, and the call for action is both absurd and inconsistent.

What's even more bizzare is that whatever issues the Occupy movement may have, the mainstream of it have been rather wary with using Marxist logic as such, in part for fear of discrediting their movement in the US which by any world standard is a politically-conservative, market-oriented, right-leaning society. Heck, a lot of what I've read out of the movement falls largely along the lines of laissez-faire market liberalism - thus the aim at big, politically-powerful business. It's at best a left-leaning libertarian stance. Very little of what I've heard from the Occupiers is actually in any sense socialist.

This TP statement, on the other hand, is a call for action that is ironically and hilariously radical-socialist and advocates the kind of class warfare and anti-market sentiment that the most die-hard Trotskyites would be proud of. Huh? That should speak volumes about coherence here. They can't even identify their own ideology and methods correctly - forget actually making sense.
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What's even more bizzare is that whatever issues the Occupy movement may have, the mainstream of it have been rather wary with using Marxist logic as such, in part for fear of discrediting their movement in the US which by any world standard is a politically-conservative, right-leaning society. This TP statement, on the other hand, is a call for action that is ironically and hilariously radical-socialist and advocates the kind of class warfare and anti-market sentiment that the most die-hard Trotskyites would be proud of. Huh? That should speak volumes about coherence here. They can't even identify their own ideology and methods correctly - forget actually making sense.

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What's even more bizzare is that whatever issues the Occupy movement may have, the mainstream of it have been rather wary with using Marxist logic as such, in part for fear of discrediting their movement in the US which by any world standard is a politically-conservative, market-oriented, right-leaning society. Heck, a lot of what I've read out of the movement falls largely along the lines of laissez-faire market liberalism - thus the aim at big, politically-powerful business. It's at best a left-leaning libertarian stance. Very little of what I've heard from the Occupiers is actually in any sense socialist.
Occupy wallstreet isn't socialist? REALLY? Have you actually been to one of these rallies?
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Old 10-22-11, 07:51 AM   #10
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Yep, You heard right, Tea party Nation put out a memo or post on Oct 18th with the last line saying:

http://www.teapartynation.com/profil...es-against-the

I get it, you hate Obama...but you're really going to suggest business owners ought do do this...at the expense of the economy, the unemployed, and the american people just to spite Obama?
It's the same as the debt ceiling "negotiations." Normal people are used as pawns and bargaining chips in their game of political brinkmanship. They don't give a tinker's damn about people, only about scoring political points.
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You'd think the TP would be OWS too!
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So it's "Stop all this class warfare or we'll start class warfare!"?
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You'd think the TP would be OWS too!
Yeah! I mean they're exactly the same. They both hate the Fed, both hate corporate bailouts. I mean, if you take away the attention to hygene, strong work ethic, and coherent message, the Tea Party is *exactly* like OWS.
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Everybody knows that the administration hates business. It's in the nature of those big-government types to seek less wealth creation, leading to lower tax returns, and....hang on a second.


Seriously though, this should get plenty of the unemplyed and disaffected off their lazy non-hard-working non-wealth-creating posteriors and start voting in some hearty TEA PARTIERS. It is the way of things.
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With campaign calls like this, that's not the adjective I'd use...
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