Weather transitions

Armistead · 08-07-11, 12:33 PM

One thing I hate about the game is weather, if it rains it's foggy. Not even sure much fog existed in the Pacific.

Sometimes if you happen to be lucky, you can catch weather changing, but it doesn't last long. I found this old SS, one of the first I took years ago. I recall following a TF is a storm, couldn't see anything, then I was being shot at. The storm had cleared some giving them visuals, but still a light rain with no hard fog, you could see ships several thousand yards. Wish these transitions lasted longer or we just had light storms. In the ME you can choose lite rain without fog, but somehow it still sets the fog in game.

I slightly edited this shot back when we had edited SS contest, but only thing was adding flares, which I cut out, but the weather is as it was in game.

Armistead · 08-07-11, 12:36 PM

Here's another in game transition I caught, just started raining, but in about 10 minutes real game time it turned into the foggy storm.

WernherVonTrapp · 08-07-11, 11:40 PM

I don't know much about meteorology except that I simply look out my window when I want to know what the weather is really like. Still, isn't fog just another name for droplets of water vapor suspended in the air near the ground, and isn't the Pacific a lot of water?

TorpX · 08-08-11, 02:02 AM

Someone said that game generated fog is more along the lines of wind driven spray as opposed to water condensing out of saturated air. This was in reference to SH3, though.

I haven't seen much fog since the later versions of RFB came out. I remember there were many complaints about "fog" before that. It was almost like it was an ever-present element.

Dogfish40 · 08-08-11, 09:45 AM

For a time, my last campaign got stuck somehow, and I had weeks of thick fog (no doubt about it, it was fog) and after I started this new campaign I had wonderful weather, the Pac Env mod was generating great versatile weather then, the fog came back, first for a week, then I said "uh-uh" and did the blasphemous Cntrl-N not just once, but twice when it came back again. Now I'm back to normal with a catch, the weather is staying too good. I hope to get some rain soon... I guess thats what I get for screwing around with Mother Nature....AAAA..Ha-Haa....Ahem...
Armistead, I don't know if I mind the weather changing fast so much. In the Pacific or any other ocean or place, you can experiance fast weather events, just not all the time. I do think it's weird having a beutiful sunny day then submerge for half an hour and surface in a Gale, that happens quite often and it doesn't feel right. Any thoughts on improving??
D40

Armistead · 08-09-11, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Dogfish40

For a time, my last campaign got stuck somehow, and I had weeks of thick fog (no doubt about it, it was fog) and after I started this new campaign I had wonderful weather, the Pac Env mod was generating great versatile weather then, the fog came back, first for a week, then I said "uh-uh" and did the blasphemous Cntrl-N not just once, but twice when it came back again. Now I'm back to normal with a catch, the weather is staying too good. I hope to get some rain soon... I guess thats what I get for screwing around with Mother Nature....AAAA..Ha-Haa....Ahem...
Armistead, I don't know if I mind the weather changing fast so much. In the Pacific or any other ocean or place, you can experiance fast weather events, just not all the time. I do think it's weird having a beutiful sunny day then submerge for half an hour and surface in a Gale, that happens quite often and it doesn't feel right. Any thoughts on improving??
D40

I don't know that you can slow down weather transitions. It's rare I catch one as stated it can go to sunny to gale in two minutes, but the transition is cool when you catch it, clouds change colors, slow drizzle, etc...Just happens fast. Settings exist for weather change limits in hours, but that just changes weather, not how fast the transitions are. You can see the one SS how black the clouds are coming in with some nice burn to it, but they roll out fast and you get the gray clouds with fog.

There are other cloud, wind, ect..values and I've played with them, but geesh, seems 100 env settings overall that can be tweaked to no end, and they obvious react to one another. Just hoping someone would have a clue which settings to play with..

Armistead · 08-08-11, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by WernherVonTrapp

I don't know much about meteorology except that I simply look out my window when I want to know what the weather is really like. Still, isn't fog just another name for droplets of water vapor suspended in the air near the ground, and isn't the Pacific a lot of water?

Funny,,

My issue is always heavy fog in Thunderstorms in game. Somehow temperature comes into place. I know San Fran has some great morning fog that burns off.

Just be nice to have some lite fog or none at all during a shower or storm. You have seperate settings for clouds, fog and rain, but anytime I adjust Heavy clouds using no fog and lite rain, I still get heavy fog. However, the transitions from clear to stormy weather give some of the best enviroment looks and colors in game, be nice if they could hold for a few hours, instead of a few minutes.

Rockin Robbins · 08-08-11, 06:18 PM

Awesome evening rain shot there, Armistead!

Daniel Prates · 08-09-11, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Rockin Robbins

Awesome evening rain shot there, Armistead!

Indeed!

WernherVonTrapp · 08-10-11, 11:08 AM

No rain here:

Daniel Prates · 08-10-11, 06:15 PM

This thread is one of the most beautiful we've had, since I joined. This one with the sunset is great. Or sunrise. Depends on your heading!

Armistead · 08-10-11, 09:05 PM

Yep, Wern has been on a run lately with the SS competition at Ubi.

I've been slowly working on files with cloud, just they're tied to about every env. setting one way or the other, but getting some better cloud transitions and colors, not that they effect the weather transitions.

Daniel Prates · 08-15-11, 12:35 PM

Again... the best-looking thread in this forum.

08-07-11, 12:33 PM	#1
Armistead Rear Admiral Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: on the Dan Posts: 10,880 Downloads: 364 Uploads: 0	Weather transitions One thing I hate about the game is weather, if it rains it's foggy. Not even sure much fog existed in the Pacific. Sometimes if you happen to be lucky, you can catch weather changing, but it doesn't last long. I found this old SS, one of the first I took years ago. I recall following a TF is a storm, couldn't see anything, then I was being shot at. The storm had cleared some giving them visuals, but still a light rain with no hard fog, you could see ships several thousand yards. Wish these transitions lasted longer or we just had light storms. In the ME you can choose lite rain without fog, but somehow it still sets the fog in game. I slightly edited this shot back when we had edited SS contest, but only thing was adding flares, which I cut out, but the weather is as it was in game.

08-07-11, 11:40 PM	#3
WernherVonTrapp Admiral Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Now, alot farther from NYC. Posts: 2,228 Downloads: 105 Uploads: 0	I don't know much about meteorology except that I simply look out my window when I want to know what the weather is really like. Still, isn't fog just another name for droplets of water vapor suspended in the air near the ground, and isn't the Pacific a lot of water? __________________ "The journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step." -Miyamoto Musashi ------------------------------------------------------- "What is truth?" -Pontius Pilate

08-08-11, 02:02 AM	#4
TorpX Silent Hunter Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 3,975 Downloads: 153 Uploads: 11	Someone said that game generated fog is more along the lines of wind driven spray as opposed to water condensing out of saturated air. This was in reference to SH3, though. I haven't seen much fog since the later versions of RFB came out. I remember there were many complaints about "fog" before that. It was almost like it was an ever-present element.

08-08-11, 09:45 AM	#5
Dogfish40 Ace of the Deep Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: LA Area, Central coast, California Posts: 1,023 Downloads: 827 Uploads: 0	For a time, my last campaign got stuck somehow, and I had weeks of thick fog (no doubt about it, it was fog) and after I started this new campaign I had wonderful weather, the Pac Env mod was generating great versatile weather then, the fog came back, first for a week, then I said "uh-uh" and did the blasphemous Cntrl-N not just once, but twice when it came back again. Now I'm back to normal with a catch, the weather is staying too good. I hope to get some rain soon... I guess thats what I get for screwing around with Mother Nature....AAAA..Ha-Haa....Ahem... Armistead, I don't know if I mind the weather changing fast so much. In the Pacific or any other ocean or place, you can experiance fast weather events, just not all the time. I do think it's weird having a beutiful sunny day then submerge for half an hour and surface in a Gale, that happens quite often and it doesn't feel right. Any thoughts on improving?? D40 __________________ *Dogfish40*

08-08-11, 06:18 PM	#8
Rockin Robbins Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: DeLand, FL Posts: 8,900 Downloads: 135 Uploads: 52	Awesome evening rain shot there, Armistead! __________________ Sub Skipper's Bag of Tricks, Slightly Subnuclear Mk 14 & Cutie, Slightly Subnuclear Deck Gun, EZPlot 2.0, TMOPlot, TMOKeys, SH4CMS

08-07-11, 12:36 PM	#2
Armistead Rear Admiral Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: on the Dan Posts: 10,880 Downloads: 364 Uploads: 0	Here's another in game transition I caught, just started raining, but in about 10 minutes real game time it turned into the foggy storm.

08-10-11, 11:08 AM	#10
WernherVonTrapp Admiral Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Now, alot farther from NYC. Posts: 2,228 Downloads: 105 Uploads: 0	No rain here: __________________ "The journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step." -Miyamoto Musashi ------------------------------------------------------- "What is truth?" -Pontius Pilate

08-10-11, 06:15 PM	#11
Daniel Prates Grey Wolf Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Curitiba, Brazil Posts: 938 Downloads: 65 Uploads: 0	This thread is one of the most beautiful we've had, since I joined. This one with the sunset is great. Or sunrise. Depends on your heading!

08-10-11, 09:05 PM	#12
Armistead Rear Admiral Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: on the Dan Posts: 10,880 Downloads: 364 Uploads: 0	Yep, Wern has been on a run lately with the SS competition at Ubi. I've been slowly working on files with cloud, just they're tied to about every env. setting one way or the other, but getting some better cloud transitions and colors, not that they effect the weather transitions. Last edited by Armistead; 08-10-11 at 10:02 PM.

08-15-11, 12:35 PM	#13
Daniel Prates Grey Wolf Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Curitiba, Brazil Posts: 938 Downloads: 65 Uploads: 0	Again... the best-looking thread in this forum.