Monstrous

ABBAFAN · 05-12-11, 01:33 PM

An absolutely monstrous outrage...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...gton-Pier.html

AVGWarhawk · 05-12-11, 02:21 PM

27 years? Probably close to retirement? Not sure how pension works for this transit company but it is possible the company was looking for anything to fire the guy so pension would not have to be paid?

Really, the reason for being dismissed is poor. He 'risked' his life to remove a cart to save a potential mess of many lives at risk with leaving the cart. My guess is he was damned if he did and damned if he didn't.

GoldenRivet · 05-12-11, 02:26 PM

what a shame.

sounds like a model employee.

AVGWarhawk · 05-12-11, 02:31 PM

Absolutely. The article states there are petitions being signed. In reality, who would want to return to a company that craps on you after 27 years of dedicated service...going above and beyond the call of duty at that!

magic452 · 05-12-11, 03:07 PM

There must be a system for him to check that the power was indeed turned off and he didn't follow procedures, a clear safety violation. He may have been killed or injured. That said I would believe that some form of written reprimand would be sufficient, unless there was a history of such behavior. I doubt that there was.

27 years pension was most likely the reason for the sack.
Hope he gets his job back and as soon as he does retires with full pension.

I saw the same thing happen at Lockheed many years ago to a janitor.
He wasn't the greatest worker in the world but at a place like Lockheed who is. He was 3 months form retirement. He got the job back and than retired.
There is something to be said for Unions in cases like this.

Magic

Oberon · 05-12-11, 03:37 PM

Yeah, I can see where the railway company is coming from, but it's not the stationmasters fault, he did request the juice be turned off...although if he didn't get confirmation that the juice was off then yeah it is a grey area, some 660 - 700 volts running through the third rail, and since most shopping trolleys are made of metal then it's not a good combination. In regards to preventing a major accident...well...I'm not quite so sure, Lymington Pier is at the end of the Lymington branch, so the train would have been slowing to stop at the end of the line, either that or the signalman would have been able to flag the train down and/or use detonators to warn the driver of a problem ahead. I'm not sure of the signalling arrangements of the Lymington branch, I think it is single line so there's probably not much in the way of signalling on it as it is not needed, probably done through a token system.

However, sacking someone for acting on their own initiative only serves to stifle such creative talents as Mr Falettos. It's rare...no...virtually non-existent to find a well kept station and a station-master who is not only proud in his work but who embraces the heritage of the railway (with the old 1960s station boards) and now that the station is unmanned it will no doubt decay and be vandalised just like all the other unmanned stations on the network. The death of the station-master in the United Kingdom has meant a drastic decay in the quality of the average station as well as a rise in vandalism on the network and it is a terrible shame. Therefore, I'm glad to see the campaign to give Mr Faletto his job back and I think that he should get it back.

05-12-11, 01:33 PM	#1
ABBAFAN Commander Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 456 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Monstrous An absolutely monstrous outrage... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...gton-Pier.html __________________ CHOOSE RFA! LESS GRAFT, MORE PAY.

05-12-11, 02:21 PM	#2
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,261 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	27 years? Probably close to retirement? Not sure how pension works for this transit company but it is possible the company was looking for anything to fire the guy so pension would not have to be paid? Really, the reason for being dismissed is poor. He 'risked' his life to remove a cart to save a potential mess of many lives at risk with leaving the cart. My guess is he was damned if he did and damned if he didn't. __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

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GoldenRivet Subsim Aviator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 8,726 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	what a shame. sounds like a model employee. __________________

05-12-11, 02:31 PM	#4
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,261 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	Absolutely. The article states there are petitions being signed. In reality, who would want to return to a company that craps on you after 27 years of dedicated service...going above and beyond the call of duty at that! __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

05-12-11, 03:07 PM	#5
magic452 Sea Lord Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Reno Nevada USA Posts: 1,860 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	There must be a system for him to check that the power was indeed turned off and he didn't follow procedures, a clear safety violation. He may have been killed or injured. That said I would believe that some form of written reprimand would be sufficient, unless there was a history of such behavior. I doubt that there was. 27 years pension was most likely the reason for the sack. Hope he gets his job back and as soon as he does retires with full pension. I saw the same thing happen at Lockheed many years ago to a janitor. He wasn't the greatest worker in the world but at a place like Lockheed who is. He was 3 months form retirement. He got the job back and than retired. There is something to be said for Unions in cases like this. Magic __________________ Reported lost 11 Feb. 1942 Signature by depthtok33l

05-12-11, 03:37 PM	#6
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Yeah, I can see where the railway company is coming from, but it's not the stationmasters fault, he did request the juice be turned off...although if he didn't get confirmation that the juice was off then yeah it is a grey area, some 660 - 700 volts running through the third rail, and since most shopping trolleys are made of metal then it's not a good combination. In regards to preventing a major accident...well...I'm not quite so sure, Lymington Pier is at the end of the Lymington branch, so the train would have been slowing to stop at the end of the line, either that or the signalman would have been able to flag the train down and/or use detonators to warn the driver of a problem ahead. I'm not sure of the signalling arrangements of the Lymington branch, I think it is single line so there's probably not much in the way of signalling on it as it is not needed, probably done through a token system. However, sacking someone for acting on their own initiative only serves to stifle such creative talents as Mr Falettos. It's rare...no...virtually non-existent to find a well kept station and a station-master who is not only proud in his work but who embraces the heritage of the railway (with the old 1960s station boards) and now that the station is unmanned it will no doubt decay and be vandalised just like all the other unmanned stations on the network. The death of the station-master in the United Kingdom has meant a drastic decay in the quality of the average station as well as a rise in vandalism on the network and it is a terrible shame. Therefore, I'm glad to see the campaign to give Mr Faletto his job back and I think that he should get it back.