Downing Street shuns flagging of Euro flag

[Skybird]

Shocking!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-13321460

In several countries, conservative or right-leaning parties made progress recently that gave the influence on policy-making in their respective countries. While I like the EU-critzicism and self-distancing this indicates, I am not always certain what to think of these parties. I have understood that Wldery ba far is not the extremist and right-winged demagogue Islamophiles and Euro-Lovers try to make him appear as in order to isolate him, in fact it was him bringing a demand into the coalition that increased the rights of homosexuals - against the opposition of the coaltion partner. The true Fins, also demonised over here as a mixture of stupid hillbillies and Neonazis, also seem to not qualify for the description of Nazis at all, but are an expression of the growing holstility towards the EU that people feel. Hungary, I have not made my final opinion on Orban's party. As was discussed in another thread some days ago, on paper the preambel of their new constitution sounds very much okay and aware of Hungary'S own identity. And the Brits, since Thatcher blackmailed Europe to get the Brit-rabate it is clear that for Britain the EU is only an entity which is to be occassionally absued for own interest. Opposing opinion camps that disagree both over the EU and the Islamic movement into Europe, seem to grow in almost all big European countries. Good.

Not waving that flag, may just be symbolic. But I agree with the change of mindset behind it.

[STEED]

That's not a flag that's a big piece of fancy toilet paper.


I would not insult my own arse using that.

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by STEED

That's not a flag that's a big piece of fancy toilet paper.


I would not insult my own arse using that.

Time we got out me thinks

[MH]

It looks like this European experiment is going very miserably.
With all the pressure EU might end up more divided than ever before...needing saving from itself.
Another Utopian experiment?

[STEED]

Originally Posted by jimbuna

Time we got out me thinks

[Jimbuna]

I'll text David and Nick with the necessary advice

[STEED]

[Happy Times]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Shocking!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-13321460

In several countries, conservative or right-leaning parties made progress recently that gave the influence on policy-making in their respective countries. While I like the EU-critzicism and self-distancing this indicates, I am not always certain what to think of these parties. I have understood that Wldery ba far is not the extremist and right-winged demagogue Islamophiles and Euro-Lovers try to make him appear as in order to isolate him, in fact it was him bringing a demand into the coalition that increased the rights of homosexuals - against the opposition of the coaltion partner. The true Fins, also demonised over here as a mixture of stupid hillbillies and Neonazis, also seem to not qualify for the description of Nazis at all, but are an expression of the growing holstility towards the EU that people feel. Hungary, I have not made my final opinion on Orban's party. As was discussed in another thread some days ago, on paper the preambel of their new constitution sounds very much okay and aware of Hungary'S own identity. And the Brits, since Thatcher blackmailed Europe to get the Brit-rabate it is clear that for Britain the EU is only an entity which is to be occassionally absued for own interest. Opposing opinion camps that disagree both over the EU and the Islamic movement into Europe, seem to grow in almost all big European countries. Good.

Not waving that flag, may just be symbolic. But I agree with the change of mindset behind it.

When President Klaus refused he was jumped on instantly, hope the federalists jump at this.
Would be fun to watch if they bully only the smaller or if they are stubid enough to take Britain.

Many are hoping and waiting for the Germans to wake up.
Germany and Sweden are the two countries that Finland aligns itself usually.
With this Euro crisis and lack of democracy Finland is starting to break in half.
I think new elections are very possible within a year, True Finns will be the biggest party if the old parties continue the "European project".

[Happy Times]

True Finns voter have previously usually voted for the Conservatives, Center or Social Democrats, parties that no one can see much difference anymore.
All are comitted to the federal Europe and they have a strong consensus and a political elite that is united over party lines.

True Finns are economically center right and approach every issue from the national perspective and interest, thats what common people expect from their politicians.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Happy Times

Many are hoping and waiting for the Germans to wake up.

Have you no more promising things to wait for?

[DarkFish]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Wldery ba far is not the extremist and right-winged demagogue Islamophiles and Euro-Lovers try to make him appear as in order to isolate him

This is a not often heard truth (whoever "Wldery" may be). He's often painted as right wing, while in fact if you look at most of his standpoints, he's actually pretty much on par with left-wing parties. The last time I filled in a voting compass, the SP (Socialist Party) was 1st on the result list, Wilders second.

[TLAM Strike]

Who can blame them for not want to fly the EU Flag:

[magic452]

Actually Skybird both systems are in a heap o' trouble and the light at the end of the tunnel is an oncoming train called the national debt.

The idiots in Washington don't even see the problem let alone have a solution.

See what works here might not work there but what doesn't work here seems to not work there either.

Magic