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Old 04-28-11, 04:29 AM   #1
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What on Earth or British S-class subs made out of?

I had just left Wilhelmshaven, when off the Danish coast I encountered a Brit sub. It was the middle of the night, so I got within 2000m and opened fire with my deck gun. The AI was having trouble hitting (perhaps because of the odd outline of submarines?) so I took over. I quickly knocked out their deck gun, so I only needed to worry about their flak.

They didn't sink until I had eight (8!!) rounds left! Granted, a significant percentage missed, but I stopped counting once I'd hit them 30 times with my 88. That was when I still had most of my ammo. I hit the thing below the water line, on the conning tower, forward, aft, everywhere! I even sprayed them with several hundred 20mm rounds. It was sheer stubbornness on my part that kept me going.

So I ask again, what super submarine hull technology did the Brits have in WWII that no one told me about?
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Old 04-28-11, 04:36 AM   #2
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There you go: You have learned a valuable lesson. Either torpedo the enemy sub or just let it go. It can not dive or lauch torpedoes.
In fact it is better to let it go since the renown given is small.
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Old 04-28-11, 05:24 AM   #3
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They can fire their deck gun accurately from 8000 to 12000 meters, too. Amazing gunnery skills.
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Old 04-28-11, 05:38 AM   #4
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Now you know how the Brits won the war.

Gamewise...better to avoid IMHO or hit with one eel and be prepared to wait a while for the inevitable flooding process to do its work.

The S Class is well known for being a slow sinker.
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2 eels and 50 10.5cm rounds won't do the job either.
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I sank a T class tied up alongside a tender in under a minute with 1 torpedo. Did they switch to aluminum for the T class?
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Old 04-28-11, 03:10 PM   #7
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There you go: You have learned a valuable lesson. Either torpedo the enemy sub or just let it go. It can not dive or lauch torpedoes.
In fact it is better to let it go since the renown given is small.
How disappointing! To think, they made a sub game in which only the player can submerge. Can anything fire torpedoes except me?

I was really excited about having a sub v. u-boat duel, especially with the sub so close to my home base, like he was trying to pull an allied Gunter Prien! Oh well, live and learn.
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How disappointing! To think, they made a sub game in which only the player can submerge.
Correction: they made a sub game without any sub except yours.

Every other submarine you see in this game is the work of the community, and well, it inevitably functions like a surface ship. That can't be changed, and unfortunately that means that their damage will get a little odd.

Naturally, no torpedoes either.
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So the other subs are from GWX? But what about the planes? Surely not the planes. Why didn't they give torpedoes to them? In the war, naval patrol planes dropped homing torps and the like.

I want to fear torpedoes!
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Old 04-28-11, 06:56 PM   #10
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Some planes were surely armed with torpedoes, wasn't it a torpedo fired by a Swordfish that borked the Bismarck's rudder?
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Old 04-29-11, 01:20 AM   #11
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How disappointing! To think, they made a sub game in which only the player can submerge. Can anything fire torpedoes except me?
No , nobody can fire torpedoes, not the Ubooten nor enemy subs nor torpedo boats of any kind.

I had came across a mod in the DL section that put invisible 14 inch guns on PT torpedo boats to act as torpedoes but I can not find it again.
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Old 04-29-11, 02:02 AM   #12
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I think I've sunk all "my" S classes instantly with one torpedo targeted midships and set to 1 Meter depth. IIRC this aways gave me the "enemy unit destroyed" message instantly. Maybe the deck gun failure is a little mean reminder that the player sub can take a lot of shells too.
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Old 04-29-11, 08:53 AM   #13
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What on Earth or British S-class subs made out of?

I had just left Wilhelmshaven, when off the Danish coast I encountered a Brit sub. It was the middle of the night, so I got within 2000m and opened fire with my deck gun. The AI was having trouble hitting (perhaps because of the odd outline of submarines?) so I took over. I quickly knocked out their deck gun, so I only needed to worry about their flak.

They didn't sink until I had eight (8!!) rounds left! Granted, a significant percentage missed, but I stopped counting once I'd hit them 30 times with my 88. That was when I still had most of my ammo. I hit the thing below the water line, on the conning tower, forward, aft, everywhere! I even sprayed them with several hundred 20mm rounds. It was sheer stubbornness on my part that kept me going.

So I ask again, what super submarine hull technology did the Brits have in WWII that no one told me about?
Think of it this way. How much punishment can your u-boat take before she's destroyed? Not loss of hull integrity from going too deep whilst damaged, but outright shot to bits on the surface? How many times have you been clipped by aircraft MG fire or taken an unlucky strike from a freighter's gun?

Come to that, how many people have accidentally torpedoed themselves with Zaunkoenige and struggled back to base afterwards?

Exactly. If your boat can take all that punishment and still function, then you can bet the British boats will too.
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Old 04-29-11, 06:00 PM   #14
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Think of it this way. How much punishment can your u-boat take before she's destroyed? Not loss of hull integrity from going too deep whilst damaged, but outright shot to bits on the surface? How many times have you been clipped by aircraft MG fire or taken an unlucky strike from a freighter's gun?

Come to that, how many people have accidentally torpedoed themselves with Zaunkoenige and struggled back to base afterwards?

Exactly. If your boat can take all that punishment and still function, then you can bet the British boats will too.

Are you kidding? I got hit once in this engagement from their deck gun, and I was down to 80% hull integrity.

I hit them dozens of times.

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Did that actually happen in your game? Or is that one of the missions?
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