Heartless New Yorkers!

Feuer Frei! · 04-27-11, 05:38 AM

Can't believe this, this is bad

Some Clown even had time and the nerve to take a cell phone picture!

Bystanders, you failed, big time.

HEARTLESS New Yorkers did not come to the aid of a gunshot victim who was bleeding to death on a Brooklyn street, disturbing surveillance footage released shows. The video opens with an unsuspecting Trevonne Winn, 24, chatting on his mobile phone outside a chicken shop on Saturday night - just moments before his killer casually steps out from the shadows and guns him down.
Sparks flash from the gun as two bullets hit Mr Winn in the chest. Mortally wounded, he drops to the ground, struggles to move, then collapses as the hit man flees.
A crowd gathers around the dying man, but no one kneels to help or comfort him. He later died at the Kings County Hospital.
"What kind of city is this? No one helped my child. Someone could have helped him and turned him over on his side to help him breathe," said Winn's outraged mum, Tracey, 40, a nurse from South Carolina.

"It's a nightmare I will never recover from. He wasn't in a gang. He didn't know anyone here. I saw that video. When I saw the video, I walked out of the room.

"That will be forever engraved in my memory. I saw my child fall on the floor, and nobody tried to help him."
A disgusted police source who saw the tape agreed.
"Between the time the shooting happened and the police arrived, people were just looking. Someone even took a cell phone picture," the source said.
Read more about passersby ignore dying gunshot victim at the New York Post.

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DarkFish · 04-27-11, 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Feuer Frei!

Some Clown even had time and the nerve to take a cell phone picture!

Of people like those, I hope someone shoots them as well and the bystanders just laugh at it

"Oh look, it's a dying man! Let's watch him and see what happens if he loses blood for 10 minutes!"

HunterICX · 04-27-11, 06:06 AM

Makes you wonder if we are actually civilized

HunterICX

Castout · 04-27-11, 06:58 AM

Quite simply immature or timid people. Many people don't mature as they grow older.

August · 04-27-11, 09:20 AM

Nothing new for New Yorkers. Just ask Kitty Genovese.

AVGWarhawk · 04-27-11, 09:42 AM

Because...in todays world people are desensitized to violence. Desensitized to helping others. People do not want to get involved. Some are afraid if they touch the guy a ambulance chasing lawyer will be after them if something goes wrong that could have possible been created by touching the victim. Things like this only provide a opportunity to video and put on Utube in most pepples eyes.

Schroeder · 04-27-11, 10:46 AM

I'm not sure whether it's true but I've heard that in some states you can get punished if the first aid you give actually kills the guy you tried to help. That would make me also very reluctant of helping someone. Here in Germany the law says that you've got to help and you won't be prosecuted if you screwed up your first aid. Our first aid instructor once said "There is nor wrong first aid, the only wrong thing is no aid at all.".

the_tyrant · 04-27-11, 11:17 AM

i believe that i read somewhere that the more people there is, the lower the odds of someone trying to help

gimpy117 · 04-27-11, 12:09 PM

wow, just wow

Ducimus · 04-27-11, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by the_tyrant

i believe that i read somewhere that the more people there is, the lower the odds of someone trying to help

This i believe is 100% true, for many reasons.

gimpy117 · 04-27-11, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Ducimus

This i believe is 100% true, for many reasons.

it's actually a psychological fact. Learned about that in Psy 1000. My roommate could go on about it.

Dowly · 04-27-11, 08:03 PM

Bystander Effect/Genovese Syndrome

Gammelpreusse · 04-27-11, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Schroeder

I'm not sure whether it's true but I've heard that in some states you can get punished if the first aid you give actually kills the guy you tried to help. That would make me also very reluctant of helping someone. Here in Germany the law says that you've got to help and you won't be prosecuted if you screwed up your first aid. Our first aid instructor once said "There is nor wrong first aid, the only wrong thing is no aid at all.".

This, yes. Maybe to much of a prejudice here, but I'd be very resluctant to help anybody in the US as well, the risk of being sued for something just appears too high.

Armistead · 04-27-11, 01:20 PM

The victim had a long criminal history in SC, highly possible he got involved in something up there even in a short period of time.

mookiemookie · 04-27-11, 01:23 PM

I think they should standardize the Good Samaritan laws across the country. In Texas, there's no duty to rescue, but the Good Samaritan Act protects people who are truly trying to provide medical aid.

04-27-11, 05:38 AM	#1
Feuer Frei! Navy Seal Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Valhalla Posts: 5,295 Downloads: 141 Uploads: 17	Heartless New Yorkers! Can't believe this, this is bad Some Clown even had time and the nerve to take a cell phone picture! Bystanders, you failed, big time. HEARTLESS New Yorkers did not come to the aid of a gunshot victim who was bleeding to death on a Brooklyn street, disturbing surveillance footage released shows. The video opens with an unsuspecting Trevonne Winn, 24, chatting on his mobile phone outside a chicken shop on Saturday night - just moments before his killer casually steps out from the shadows and guns him down. Sparks flash from the gun as two bullets hit Mr Winn in the chest. Mortally wounded, he drops to the ground, struggles to move, then collapses as the hit man flees. A crowd gathers around the dying man, but no one kneels to help or comfort him. He later died at the Kings County Hospital. "What kind of city is this? No one helped my child. Someone could have helped him and turned him over on his side to help him breathe," said Winn's outraged mum, Tracey, 40, a nurse from South Carolina. "It's a nightmare I will never recover from. He wasn't in a gang. He didn't know anyone here. I saw that video. When I saw the video, I walked out of the room. "That will be forever engraved in my memory. I saw my child fall on the floor, and nobody tried to help him." A disgusted police source who saw the tape agreed. "Between the time the shooting happened and the police arrived, people were just looking. Someone even took a cell phone picture," the source said. Read more about passersby ignore dying gunshot victim at the New York Post. SOURCE __________________ "History is the lies that the victors agree on"- Napoleon LINK TO MY SH 3 MODS

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AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,253 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	Because...in todays world people are desensitized to violence. Desensitized to helping others. People do not want to get involved. Some are afraid if they touch the guy a ambulance chasing lawyer will be after them if something goes wrong that could have possible been created by touching the victim. Things like this only provide a opportunity to video and put on Utube in most pepples eyes. __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

04-27-11, 10:46 AM	#7
Schroeder Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Banana Republic of Germany Posts: 6,170 Downloads: 62 Uploads: 0	I'm not sure whether it's true but I've heard that in some states you can get punished if the first aid you give actually kills the guy you tried to help. That would make me also very reluctant of helping someone. Here in Germany the law says that you've got to help and you won't be prosecuted if you screwed up your first aid. Our first aid instructor once said "There is nor wrong first aid, the only wrong thing is no aid at all.". __________________ Putting Germ back into Germany.

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the_tyrant Admiral Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Canada Posts: 2,272 Downloads: 58 Uploads: 0	i believe that i read somewhere that the more people there is, the lower the odds of someone trying to help

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Dowly Lucky Jack Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 25,052 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	Bystander Effect/Genovese Syndrome

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Armistead Rear Admiral Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: on the Dan Posts: 10,880 Downloads: 364 Uploads: 0	The victim had a long criminal history in SC, highly possible he got involved in something up there even in a short period of time.

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mookiemookie Navy Seal Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 9,404 Downloads: 105 Uploads: 1	I think they should standardize the Good Samaritan laws across the country. In Texas, there's no duty to rescue, but the Good Samaritan Act protects people who are truly trying to provide medical aid. __________________ They don’t think it be like it is, but it do. Want more U-boat Kaleun portraits for your SH3 Commander Profiles? Download the SH3 Commander Portrait Pack here.