Veganism

GoldenRivet · 01-15-11, 11:29 AM

As i sit here after enjoying a late breakfast of scrambled eggs, tobasco sauce, sausage and a biscuit im reminded... I have this friend, she is a vegan, we are guests in her house occasionally. Occasionally she will cook us dinner or perhaps breakfast if we choose to spend the night.

I'm here to tell you, either she cannot cook, or veganism is the most bland, tasteless, unexciting lifestyle where food is concerned.

everything we have ever consumed in her home has been made of some sort of whole wheat, whole grain, soy something or other and it has been a full time job just to choke down a few ounces of it.

she claims numerous health benifits to her veganism but this doesnt stop her from tipping the scales at over 200+ lbs, which, for her 5'4" frame is rather... fluffy.

We were eating breakfast at her house just a day or two ago and she made these cinnamon rolls... i can guess the recipe:

take one slice of whole grain bread and roll it into a biscuit shape. let it sit out for 2 days, drizzle it with watered down sour cream and cinnamon sprinkles... serve

but despite the horrendous lack of flavor in pretty much all of the dishes served, they all seem to take more than 1-2 hours to prepare. how it takes 2 hours to prepare and serve only to turn out with a taste comparable to 8.5"x11" college ruled notebook paper is beyond me.

personally, I'd just as soon eat two eggs over easy served atop a t-bone steak with a glass of orange juice. thats a working man's breakfast.

i'm thankful that i have a woman who knows how to feed her man something thats not only rich in flavor but is traditional and is going to stick to his bones until lunch time!

anyone else suffer through the vegan lifestyle in some way or another?

rant over

gimpy117 · 01-15-11, 11:35 AM

veganism is silly.

cows make milk all by them selves

chickens lay eggs just for fun

and were gonna waste that?

Platapus · 01-15-11, 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gimpy117

veganism is silly.

No it is not silly, it is a lifestyle that some choose that you don't agree with. Lets be a little more inclusive.

tater · 01-15-11, 11:38 AM

No, it's silly. It's a choice, but it's a silly choice.

And vegan food is indeed pretty awful. I've had loads of vegetarian food, and have vegetarian friends who are good cooks. I could eat good vegetarian food indefinitely. You'd be lucky to enjoy 1 in 100 vegan dishes that vegans themselves think are great.

Betonov · 01-15-11, 11:49 AM

Vegan food can be quite good, but prepare to fork out some coins. I remember when I was at a friends apartment once and his girlfrend was vegan and she made this salad that was excellent, but getting good red redish is quite a feat if its not spring/summer. And two hours later we went for a kebab

GoldenRivet · 01-15-11, 11:50 AM

I agree with Platapus that it is NOT silly.

I agree with Tater that 1 in 100 vegan meals will be enjoyed by a non vegan.

DarkFish · 01-15-11, 11:50 AM

I agree it's a silly choice. Humans are omnivores. If we were destined to eat only plants, we'd been born as cows.
Meat contains loads of important nutrients. It's just weird to do things the hard way with special foods and dietary supplements etc. instead of simply eating some meat, eggs and dairy products.

It is a choice, yes. And everyone should be allowed to make that choice. But scientifically it's a weird choice.

Betonov · 01-15-11, 11:54 AM

Well, every woman puts a piece of meat into her mouth at least once in a lifetime, vegan or not

Sailor Steve · 01-15-11, 11:57 AM

Ocassionally I enjoy a salad with tomatoes, carrots and mushrooms. And ocassionally I enjoy a salad with tomatoes, carrots, mushrooms, eggs, ham, turkey, cheese and sometimes bacon.

I also like lettuce and tomato on my cheeseburgers.

Lettuce and tomato on steak? Not so much. Mushrooms, yeah.

Veggies: What food eats.

Skybird · 01-15-11, 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gimpy117

veganism is silly.

cows make milk all by them selves

chickens lay eggs just for fun

We have made them to do. Naturally they wouldn't.

Anyhow, I am not Vegan, and never were, I was Vegetarian for ten years some longer time ago. Back then it was okay to not have meat or fish, but cheese, eggs and milk I ate.

If that lady's vegan food does not taste, then she simply doe snot know how to cook well. My Mom can cook with Tofu and wheat and grain, and she can do it very excellently, producing copies of meat by using grians only that are as delicious as the real thing.

But one needs to have a lot of background knowedge about food and nurtirtion, else it backfires oin your health - you can make a lot wrong there. It is also more expensive, and it takes you much more time in the kitchen.

I personally came to realise that occasionally I like to have some meat or fishg. But I do not have it even just once per week, but only maybe 2 or 3 times per month. I consume a lot of grains instead, Tofu, pasta, and milk, eggs, butter, cheese etc. So I am no Vegetarian anymore, but a very low rate consumer of meat.

What I run away from in panic, yelling, is Sushi. Cold, glibbery, often salty. Brrrr. My trainer and personal mentor was Japanese, and quite traditional a bit. I did not make him happy with that dislike of mine.

Platapus · 01-15-11, 02:43 PM

I gave up beef about a year ago. My doctor is very happy. My LDL went from 200+ to 64 at my last exam.

One thing that is weird about beef is that if you stop eating it for a while, if you ever do, it tastes kinda funny and not in a good way.

Quote:

I don't care the hell what other people eat so long as they enjoy it. I can't stand sad eaters and sad drinkers

That's my philosophy.

Anyone know where that quote came from? I bet Sailor Steve knows.

No pressure there Steve.

Takeda Shingen · 01-15-11, 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Platapus

I gave up beef about a year ago. My doctor is very happy. My LDL went from 200+ to 64 at my last exam.

Congratulations! That's quite a drop.

STEED · 01-15-11, 02:55 PM

For every person turns vegan the poor Americans have to eat more meat.

mookiemookie · 01-15-11, 02:56 PM

Much like Tak, What diet someone else chooses to follow doesn't bother me in the least. I don't feel the need to critique it or pass judgement on it. I should really try cutting back on the meat....I've started limiting my red meat intake and replacing it as much as possible with white meat chicken or turkey.

That being said, I did get a kick out of this:

01-15-11, 03:15 PM

Well, as more people go veggy?
The cost of a steak should drop for me!
Happy Times!

Actually? We raise our own Beef so cost is not much of a factor.
They are natural fed with no injections and such.
We have 3 right now. Named Breakfest, Lunch, and Dinner!

At 53 (in a few days) I STILL can wear the same sizes I did in 1976!
160 LBS at 5' 10"
I also out work most of the Guys younger then me by a long shot.
(I can still lift a 350 Chevy engine into the back of a Pickup by myself)

I believe it's not what you eat, it's your life style that matters.
If your on your butt all day?
You ain't burning off the stuff you consume.

My rule is:
If it don't eat me first?
It's most likely a meal.

01-15-11, 11:29 AM	#1
GoldenRivet Subsim Aviator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 8,729 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	Veganism As i sit here after enjoying a late breakfast of scrambled eggs, tobasco sauce, sausage and a biscuit im reminded... I have this friend, she is a vegan, we are guests in her house occasionally. Occasionally she will cook us dinner or perhaps breakfast if we choose to spend the night. I'm here to tell you, either she cannot cook, or veganism is the most bland, tasteless, unexciting lifestyle where food is concerned. everything we have ever consumed in her home has been made of some sort of whole wheat, whole grain, soy something or other and it has been a full time job just to choke down a few ounces of it. she claims numerous health benifits to her veganism but this doesnt stop her from tipping the scales at over 200+ lbs, which, for her 5'4" frame is rather... fluffy. We were eating breakfast at her house just a day or two ago and she made these cinnamon rolls... i can guess the recipe: take one slice of whole grain bread and roll it into a biscuit shape. let it sit out for 2 days, drizzle it with watered down sour cream and cinnamon sprinkles... serve but despite the horrendous lack of flavor in pretty much all of the dishes served, they all seem to take more than 1-2 hours to prepare. how it takes 2 hours to prepare and serve only to turn out with a taste comparable to 8.5"x11" college ruled notebook paper is beyond me. personally, I'd just as soon eat two eggs over easy served atop a t-bone steak with a glass of orange juice. thats a working man's breakfast. i'm thankful that i have a woman who knows how to feed her man something thats not only rich in flavor but is traditional and is going to stick to his bones until lunch time! anyone else suffer through the vegan lifestyle in some way or another? rant over __________________

01-15-11, 11:35 AM	#2
gimpy117 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Kalamazoo, MI Posts: 3,243 Downloads: 108 Uploads: 0	veganism is silly. cows make milk all by them selves chickens lay eggs just for fun and were gonna waste that? __________________ Member of the Subsim Zombie Army

01-15-11, 11:50 AM	#6
GoldenRivet Subsim Aviator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 8,729 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	I agree with Platapus that it is NOT silly. I agree with Tater that 1 in 100 vegan meals will be enjoyed by a non vegan. __________________

01-15-11, 11:50 AM	#7
DarkFish Sea Lord Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Stinking drunk in Eindhoven, the Netherlands Posts: 1,844 Downloads: 28 Uploads: 0	I agree it's a silly choice. Humans are omnivores. If we were destined to eat only plants, we'd been born as cows. Meat contains loads of important nutrients. It's just weird to do things the hard way with special foods and dietary supplements etc. instead of simply eating some meat, eggs and dairy products. It is a choice, yes. And everyone should be allowed to make that choice. But scientifically it's a weird choice. __________________

01-15-11, 11:57 AM	#9
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Ocassionally I enjoy a salad with tomatoes, carrots and mushrooms. And ocassionally I enjoy a salad with tomatoes, carrots, mushrooms, eggs, ham, turkey, cheese and sometimes bacon. I also like lettuce and tomato on my cheeseburgers. Lettuce and tomato on steak? Not so much. Mushrooms, yeah. Veggies: What food eats. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

01-15-11, 11:38 AM	#4
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	No, it's silly. It's a choice, but it's a silly choice. And vegan food is indeed pretty awful. I've had loads of vegetarian food, and have vegetarian friends who are good cooks. I could eat good vegetarian food indefinitely. You'd be lucky to enjoy 1 in 100 vegan dishes that vegans themselves think are great.

01-15-11, 11:49 AM	#5
Betonov Navy Seal Join Date: May 2009 Location: Slovenia Posts: 8,647 Downloads: 26 Uploads: 0	Vegan food can be quite good, but prepare to fork out some coins. I remember when I was at a friends apartment once and his girlfrend was vegan and she made this salad that was excellent, but getting good red redish is quite a feat if its not spring/summer. And two hours later we went for a kebab

01-15-11, 11:54 AM	#8
Betonov Navy Seal Join Date: May 2009 Location: Slovenia Posts: 8,647 Downloads: 26 Uploads: 0	Well, every woman puts a piece of meat into her mouth at least once in a lifetime, vegan or not

01-15-11, 02:55 PM	#13
STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	For every person turns vegan the poor Americans have to eat more meat. __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT!

01-15-11, 02:56 PM	#14
mookiemookie Navy Seal Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 9,404 Downloads: 105 Uploads: 1	Much like Tak, What diet someone else chooses to follow doesn't bother me in the least. I don't feel the need to critique it or pass judgement on it. I should really try cutting back on the meat....I've started limiting my red meat intake and replacing it as much as possible with white meat chicken or turkey. That being said, I did get a kick out of this: __________________ They don’t think it be like it is, but it do. Want more U-boat Kaleun portraits for your SH3 Commander Profiles? Download the SH3 Commander Portrait Pack here.

01-15-11, 03:15 PM	#15
Madox58 Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Well, as more people go veggy? The cost of a steak should drop for me! Happy Times! Actually? We raise our own Beef so cost is not much of a factor. They are natural fed with no injections and such. We have 3 right now. Named Breakfest, Lunch, and Dinner! At 53 (in a few days) I STILL can wear the same sizes I did in 1976! 160 LBS at 5' 10" I also out work most of the Guys younger then me by a long shot. (I can still lift a 350 Chevy engine into the back of a Pickup by myself) I believe it's not what you eat, it's your life style that matters. If your on your butt all day? You ain't burning off the stuff you consume. My rule is: If it don't eat me first? It's most likely a meal.